TR "possessed" by Voldemort? (was Re: Dumbledore knows)

[meltowne]

No: HPFGUIDX 107043

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "snow15145" <snow15145 at y...> 
wrote:
 
  "snow" previously wrote:
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COS chap. The Heir of Slytherin pg. 313: "Voldemort," said Riddle
softly, "is my past, present, and future, Harry Potter
" This
statement, IMO, leads me to believe that Voldemort is a separate
entity from Riddle. "Voldemort" said Riddle
" They are as one but 
not one in the same. This entity, Voldemort, Dark Lord, Dark Wizard,
Grindlewald, may be Salizar Slytherin who has possessed many over 
his life span of the undead. 

SS pg. 298 "He is still out there somewhere, perhaps looking for 
another body to share
 not being truly alive, he cannot be killed
" 
To vanquish just the shell of the person who has been possessed by
this entity will not vanquish the entity itself. Quirrell was killed
and yet the beast within lived on until it reappeared in another's 
form. SS chap. The Man with Two Faces pg. 293 "See what I have 
become?   
the face said. "Mere shadow and vapor
 I have form only when I can 
share another's body
 but there have always been those willing to let
me into their hearts and minds
" Those? Must have happened many times
before...

David:

Again in GoF as he's 'reborn', he has no problem pointing out to
Harry the grave of his father. He doesn't speak in the third person,
as if the Tom Riddle life was someone else's. He speaks as if he's
deliberately thumbing his nose at his past.

Snow:
My only rebuttal to this would be that Voldemort was reborn with 
Harry's blood. Harry has a bit of Tom Riddle in him, which 
reconnected with the bit of Tom Riddle remaining in Voldemort. 
Voldemort appears to be astonished by his own sentiments at the 
graveyard. The Tom Riddle part of Voldemort has been awakened by the 
blood connection from Harry.

Mel (me):

I suspect the TMR was in fact taken over by Voldemort's spirit, 
whoever that may be.  It started out that he was "one of many" but he 
got further than any other in producting an immortal body - not just 
the soul.  Thus he was the heir of Slytherin because he took 
Slytherine's work a step further.  TMR picked the name Lord Voldemort 
to instill fear - was there a previous Voldemort, or does he build 
the reputation himself?  Was Lord Riddle too ordinary a name to 
instill fear?

The Dark Lord is now both part Slytherin, and part TMR - and both 
parts want to survive (and can do so together for now).  This would 
also fit with the idea of TMR being one of Slytherin's "ancestors" in 
that it takes people like him to allow a spirit like this to 
survive.  
Maybe it's because of TMR being resident that he Dark Lord can be 
vanquished - if he had simply continued to posess other people, he 
could go on forever, but maybe TMR's presence somehow makes him 
more "human."