Still wondering why Snape trusts DD! (was: James the Berk?)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 107442

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
> 
> Carol earlier:
> > > Moreover, he can't know that Snape is an occlumens or Snape
would be unable to spy on him or observe him or attend meetings
(whatever he's doing)  without giving himself away.
> 
> 
> Carolina replied: 
> > I can't agree with this. If Voldemort is using Snape as a spy, he 
> should know that he needs to be an occlumens to do that work. One
can't be under the nose  of a legilimens for 14 years without being an
occlumens and  Voldemort should  know, or should be asking himself why
DD hasn't detected him in 14 years if he is not one.  


Carol responds:
Oops. I guess I should watch my pronouns. I didn't mean that
*Voldemort* is using snape as a spy. I meant that Snape is spying on
*him.* The whole idea of his being an occlumens is that he can block
his mind against a Legilimens like Voldemort--and, as someone pointed
out with a quote to back it up, Snape can allow the Legilimens to see
what he wants him to see but hide or block what he doesn't. As for why
Dumbledore hasn't detected him, that doesn't even make sense, since it
was Dumbledore who asked Snape to teach Harry occlumency. DD not only
knows that Snape is an occlumens, IMO, he probably taught him occlumency.

So, to clarify, I repeat: Voldemort can't know that Snape is an
occlumens or Snape would be unable to attend meetings (or whatever he
does) without being suspected as a spy. (As it is, I'm pretty sure
that Voldemort suspects his loyalty for other reasons, and that he is
"the one I believe has left me forever"--but he seems to have
convinced Lucius Malfoy, at least, that he's actually still loyal.)

Sorry--can't finish the post. My ride to the airport is here. I'll be
in San Diego for three days!

Carol