Ginny and the entrancing Veil

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 107832

dcgmck wrote:
>  
> Still, I don't think the memory of Riddle knew any more of what his 
> future self had done than what Ginny told him in the diary before 
> Harry started communicating with him.  Of course, then Riddle 
> possessed Ginny again...  OK.  But Harry knew even less than Ginny 
> did in his second year at Hogwarts.  OK, I'm confused again.  How 
> would the memory have learned enough to contaminate Ginny, unless 
> it was outside of the visible narrative line while at the Malfoy 
> estate?
>  
> Cory responded:
>  
> The more I think about this, the more I think I was wrong in my last 
> post.  My initial thought was that, althought the diary was made by 
> Riddle when he was 16, it somehow "grew" with Riddle/Voldemort as 
> he matured, and therefore the Riddle that was in the diary had 
> knowledge of everything that Voldemort was to become.  Upon further 
> reflection (and having looked back at the chapter in COS where 
> Riddle was talking to Harry in the Chamber), I think I might have 
> been wrong about this.
> 
> 
> Diane added:
> 
> Since the diary was in Malfoy's possession, perhaps Malfoy was 
> keeping Voldemort up to date with the WW. Malfoy could have been 
> ordered by VM to plant the diary on someone close to Harry. Ginny 
> Weasley seemed like a good choice given her dad is a major thorn in 
> Malfoy's side. Just my two knuts.
> 
> Diane

Carol adds:
He couldn't have been ordered by Voldemort himself to do it since
Voldemort was vaporized. But if you mean that he write in the duarty
to see what it was and was ordered by the future Voldemort, Diary!Tom,
to do it, I think I agree with you. That would explain how Diary!Tom
knew as much as he did about his future self and about Harry.

The question then becomes how Malfoy came by the diary in the first
place and why he chose that particular time to write in it. I suppose
it would depend on how much he knew about the Philosopher's Stone
incident. Yes, Dumbledore tells Harry that "the whole school knows"
what happened between him and Quirrell, but rumors spread among the
students would tend to be inaccurate and Dumbledore himself tends to
be reticent at the end-of-school banquets. Would Draco have known that
Voldemort was in the back of Quirrell's head and was again lurking in
something like spirit form? Maybe the half-knowledge that Ludius
acquired from Draco was the spur that sent him to the diary?

But again, how did he come by it in the first place? He was only about
twenty-six when Voldemort was defeated at Godric's Hollow, and
Voldemort was not anticipating defeat. Why would he have given his old
school things to Lucius? My theory (okay, speculation) is that Lucius
found the diary at Hogwarts as a schoolboy and kept it. He must have
discovered *then* who Tom Riddle was and been ordered to keep the
diary secret until he felt the need to use it.

Anyone think this view is plausible?

Carol