Clues to 6&7 in POA film - Don't cry for me Harry Potter

[samnanya]

No: HPFGUIDX 100154

Thank you for setting me straight on that count. The reason
that I was pissy and rude was that the original response to
the argument (which I should have quoted but did not) was
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Reread the following pages:
*OotP, Page 856 (US)
*PS, Page 299 (US)

Harry has cried tears before.
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If you read those references there was no mention at all of
Harry actually shedding tears.
Your reference in PoA (p 178 UK, 240 US) is much clearer,
harder, if not impossible, to refute, and would NEVER have 
elicited my rude response. I have no problem with logical
arguments and am the first to apologise when I am wrong.

That said, 

Brenda
I think I remember Harry crying in some other scenes, but
I can't remember the exact quotes from the books. 

Samnanya
No pissiness at all, just please remember that crying is
not the same as shedding tears, and I would love to see
the references. If I am wrong in those instances, you
would save me a lot of time i would be wasting to support
an invalid theory.
I also found it interesting that, in the scene you referred
to,  Harry had passed out twice.

 After the first time (PoA 177)
"'Harry!'
Harry jerked back to life.... sitting up and
feeling cold sweat trickling down behind his glasses."

After the second time (PoA 178 as you quoted)
"'Harry!Harry... wake up...'
Lupin was tapping Harry hard on the face.....Harry
suddenly realized that there were tears on his face
mingling with the sweat."

I wonder why Lupin used that method to revive Harry as 
opposed to shaking his shoulders. Would you wake a sleeping
person by poking their face? Just a thought.....




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Brenda  wrote : 

> (quoting Samnanya)
 > I get REALLY REALLY pissed [as opposed to shedding a tear}
> > when people here infer that I can't read while it is obvious
> > that they havent carefully read what I said and worse yet,
> > quote canon to support their argument when the canon in fact
> > supports my own...
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------.
> > The key word is TEARS as in SHEDDING TEARS
> > Wiping a wet face is not crying TEARS
> > Hiding your face in your robes does not infer TEARS
> > Harry's eyes can still be wet without him shedding a TEAR
> <snip>
> > JKR can describe a tear quite well when she wants to ...
> > 
> > If nothing else in this series, JKR has been VERY careful
> > with her words, far more careful than some people have been
> > with their reading. JKR has also said many times in many 
> > interviews that EYES are important and I am certain that 
> > she has chosen her words very carefully. AND I am certain 
> > that the scene I referred to in the movie was not shot in 
> > close up by accident. 
> 
> 
> Wells if you are gonna be that pissy and rude about it, I suggest 
> that you read the books more closely.
> 
> "Harry suddenly realized that there were TEARS on his face mingling 
> with the sweat.  He bent his face low as possible, WIPING them off 
on 
> his robes, pretending to do up his shoelace, so that Lupin wouldn't 
> see." (PoA, 178 - UK)
> 
> There, you WERE right.  JKR can indeed describe a tear quite well 
> when she wants to.  And that, definitely, implies that Harry is 
> capable of shedding tears.  I think I remember Harry crying in some 
> other scenes, but I can't remember the exact quotes from the books.