Not changing events at GH but keeping them the same. Was: Harry at GH

Mandy ExSlytherin at aol.com
Wed Jun 9 14:11:23 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 100541

 > Gorda wrote:
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> The most remarkable thing about those interferences is that they 
all FIT into what happened originally to the trio (before they used 
the timeturner). So essentially when H/H go back they are NOT 
actually CHANGING what happened but rather they are "retracing their 
steps" as movie!DD says, only we are being allowed to see what 
happened from a different point of view.
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> And Harry could not use a time-turner to go back and save his 
parents. BUT he COULD use it to go back and come to find out that he 
WAS at GH that night and that his being there  made things happen as 
they did. (anyone's head hurting yet?)


Mandy here:
No my heads not hurting yet as that is exactly along the lines of 
what I've been thinking.  

The Time Turner will be used, not to change time, but to ensure it 
happens the same way.  Harry survived Godrick's Hollow because he was 
there as Timeturner/Harry and helped to keep himself alive.   So it 
is imperative that DD keeps Harry alive until the moment he goes back 
in time to save himself.   So that Voldemort is still unsuccessful in 
his assassination attempt on baby Harry, gets reduced to Vapormort, 
Harry receives the scar, has to grow up with the Dersleys, etc, etc, 
etc. Over and over and over again. Time hasn't been changed, but kept 
the same.  Harry survived Voldemort's curse because he was standing 
in that room alive as adult Timeturner/Harry, so it was impossible 
for Voldemort to able to kill him.  

But surly the question is why? Why send Harry back to Godricks Hollow 
to keep himself alive into adulthood to face Voldemort in the 
future?  Other than keeping Harry alive, which is important, but what 
benefit is there to the over all story line? Other than it being 
rather fun?  How will it affect Harry finally vanquishing 
Voldemort?   

Is DD hoping that, in the looping of time back over itself, that one 
time through TimeTurner/Harry will be successful in defeating 
Voldemort completely at Godrick's Hollow and not just reducing him to 
dust?  Practice makes perfect right? But if Harry is successful in 
leaving himself alive as a baby with the scar, an orphan and famous 
but with all threat of Voldemort gone won't we have a paradox?  All 
other events would still be unchanged Sirius would still be wrongly 
imprisoned in Azkaban, Snape still a traitor to the DE?    Is there 
some event inside this circle of looping time that has to be 
changed?  But again if we start changing things inside the loop we 
again end up with a paradox. OK, now my head is aching!  

Oh, and here's a thought: what if Lily's charm of protection was to 
call the future grown up Harry back in time to her and baby Harry, 
making it impossible for Voldemort to kill him....but surly that 
won't work....now I have got a headache........

I love this whole Harry in Godrick's Hollow idea, but how and can it 
be used to further the saga, and not just be an interesting 
interlude?  

Am I making any sense?  Any thoughts?

Cheers Mandy, who's just had a horrible thought, what if Harry is 
stuck in this repeating looping time scenario, where every time he 
grows up DD hopes that Harry is strong enough to finally kill 
Voldemort, but every time Harry fails at Godrick's Hollow, he is 
doomed to go back and relive his miserable life over and over and 
over again until he is successful.   Now that's a vision of Hell.  




Cheers Mandy






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