New thoughts on Occlumency

snow15145 snow15145 at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 10 18:01:06 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 100683

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...> 
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Snow again:
> >  I meant the ones in the pencieve. I liked the idea that 
Voldemort 
> > knew about the lessons that Snape was giving Harry. Snape would 
> have 
> > perhaps wanted to protect some of his own memories from Voldemort 
> and 
> > placed them in the pencieve before each lesson. Now that Harry 
had 
> > seen those particular memories it would no longer be safe to 
> continue 
> > giving Harry lessons with the possibility of Voldemort seeing 
what 
> > Harry had saw.
> 
> Potioncat:
> I think we're in agreement here, but I'm feeling a little dense.  
We 
> know (but Snape doesn't) that Harry only saw the memory of the OWLS 
> afternoon.  I think Snape put at least 2 other memories in, but 
none 
> of us saw what they were.  Are those the ones you mean?  Because I 
> agree, they might have been dangerous for LV to find out.  
> 
> Of course, they could just be from the rather compromising episode 
> during the staff Christmas party....
> 
> Potioncat who needs some humor this afternoon.

Snow:
I think Snape may have been in more danger of Voldemort than Harry 
with those lessons. DD knowing of the danger this may present to 
Snape, allowed him the use of the pencieve to extract memories, which 
may compromise Snape's motives to Voldemort. Then if something like 
the shield charm was used by Harry so that Harry could see into 
Snapes memories (which he did once) Voldemort would not be able to 
see anything that had been extracted previously by Snape for 
protection in the pencieve. But now that Harry was successful in 
obtaining those thoughts, or at least part of the memories stored 
there, Snape would no longer be able to give lessons for fear of 
Voldemort's presence if Harry recalled those memories in future 
lessons. 

As a side note, Snape has commented throughout that Harry doesn't 
care the risk that others have/are taking to ensure his protection. 
Of course on Harry's behalf he is not told of the specifics of those 
protectors and has not known a lot of them, like Mrs. Figg until 
after the fact.  If Harry had been told to what extent occlumency 
lessons may affect Snape if found out about especially by Voldemort, 
Harry would have probably been a bit more sympathetic and less 
disobedient. Just a thought!







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