New thoughts on Occlumency

[Susan]

No: HPFGUIDX 100884


> > > Pippin:
> > > It's another clue that Lupin is a legilimens, for one thing. 
But 
> > it 
> > > brings up something else I've been wondering about. Voldemort 
> > > doesn't have a scar. How can he tell whether his attempts to 
> > > plant information in Harry's head are working--unless of course 
> > > he can get Snape to look  for him and report back? 
> > 
> > Potioncat:
> > But, you brought up something I hadn't thought of, a way that 
Snape 
> > can get away with giving the lessons with less danger.  He gives 
LV 
> > enough information about it to seem to be working for him.  I 
still 
> > think it leaves Snape in extra danger, especially if LV gets any 
> > information from his own walks in Harry's mind.
> > Potioncat
> 
> Snow:
> Maybe that's why Snape couldn't resume occlumency lessons with 
Harry 
> now that the memory of what he saw in the pencieve is now in 
Harry's 
> thoughts. The thoughts may have been put into the pencieve for 
> protection from Voldemort not Harry.

Okay, this has been bugging me for a while now.  In SS, Snape meets 
Quirrell in the forbidden forest, he's on to him about letting the 
Troll into the school as a distraction, and tells him "We'll have 
another little chat soon, when you've had time to think things over 
and decide where your loyalties lie." (SS 13:226)  Even though we 
readers didn't kow that LV was hiding in Q's turban (nor does Snape, 
we assume) LV *was* there.  How can LV not now know where *Snape's* 
loyalties lie?!  

This is in the very first book, so I really don't see how Snape can 
truly be spying for both sides, or how LV, Lucius, or anyone else for 
that matter, can believe that Snape _isn't_ loyal to DD.  Wouldn't LV 
know from that moment on that Snape is no longer loyal to LV at all?
Any thoughts?

Susan (teilani) :-)