Long lived

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No: HPFGUIDX 100775

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "meriaugust" <meriaugust at y...> wrote:
> 
> Meri now, intrigued: So, let me get this straight. Your theory is 
> that Vapo!Mort has existed for quite some time, perhaps even as long 
> as the Chamber of Secrets itself, and it lay there peacefully 
> waiting for some young innocent like Riddle to stumble upon it? 
> Fascinating. I think that this would sort of reinforce the choice 
> theme of the books, wouldn't it.
>snip
> My imagination is 
> piqued. (Though admittedly this doesn't explain why Tom Riddle's 
> father needed to be used for the resurection. Why not a different 
> wizard?) I am also wondering what implications this could have for 
> the prophecy. Maybe this means that Harry while the only one who can 
> defeat theoretical Vapo!Mort he is also the only body that can truly 
> support Vapo!Mort. So maybe Harry is the one with the power to 
> vanquish the Dark Lord, and maybe if Vapo!Mort were to posess Harry 
> then Harry would die and LV would live. But unless he can posses 
> Harry, Vapo!Mort isn't really alive? Did anything I just say make 
> any sense? Anyway, good on ya, Kneasy. Nice theorizing.


I've occasionally posted theories on the possibilty of possession being a
key plot device for some time and it prompts some intriguing questions:

1. It's the Chamber of Secrets - plural. What else was down there?

2. Heirs get an inheritance, otherwise they're not heirs, they're just 
descendants. What did Tom get?

3. Vapour!Mort - no explanation has ever appeared telling us just
what the nature of this thing is and yet it appears to be a unique
phenomenon. When obvious questions are missed or glossed
over, my  thumbs prickle. Is JKR hiding something?

4. If Voldy is a combinant it would maybe explain why DD calls him
"Tom" to his face, even though he tells the kids to call him Lord
Voldemort. If possession has taken place, DD obviously believes that
some part  of Tom still exists. 
Is he trying to persuade Tom to choose anew? To  break free with an
inevitable weakening effect on the possessing entity?

5. "There are worse things than death, Tom." 
Eternal servitude to an evil master, perhaps?

6. Vapour!Mort (possibly essence of Salazar) may be immortal or
nearly so, but to meet his performance targets he needs a body.
Tom did fine until he got in the way of a rebounding spell. The 
senior partner in the Voldy team doesn't want to go through the
palaver of breaking in a new  host again, so the graveyard scene
was about producing an immortal carrier.

7. Harry's memories of the Godric's Hollow incident (PoA chap 9)
are interesting, particularly if you have a suspicious mind. Lily
is pleading with  Voldy and she asks him not to 'take' Harry,  but
to take her, kill her instead. Now 'take' can be used as an alternative
for kill, as in 'take a life' but it's use here when Harry is at the wrong
end of a wand seems a bit strange; 'kill' or 'hurt' would be a more
common usage. Maybe Voldy  wanted to possess Harry too.

8. Lily is killed, Voldy tries to nail Harry. Strangely, Harry can recall
only one green flash; why not two? Some may argue that Lily was
holding Harry and Voldy was going for two birds with one spell, but
in that case why did the spell rebound? It hit, or partially hit, it's
intended target - Lily. Why  would there be a powerful enough 
rebound to destroy Voldy? 

9. AKs cause no physical damage at all, judging by the state of Cedric.
So how come a rebound totally destroys Voldy's body? 
The spell transferred parts of Voldy into Harry. Seems a bit odd - why 
would a killing spell transfer bits of the killer into a soon to be corpse?

See, it raises my paranoia index when there are loose ends like these
flapping around, and if it's possible to cobble 'em together and come
up with a theory as a possible explanation as to what's going on, it 
makes it even more interesting. Even if nobody agrees with me.

Kneasy