Long lived

[mooseming]

No: HPFGUIDX 100782

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
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> 
> I've occasionally posted theories on the possibilty of possession
being a
> key plot device for some time and it prompts some intriguing questions:
> 
> 1. It's the Chamber of Secrets - plural. What else was down there?

Jo
I don't know but I bet the veiled gateway started life there!
> 
> 2. Heirs get an inheritance, otherwise they're not heirs, they're just 
> descendants. What did Tom get?

Jo
Well obviously he got possession of the family secret, no skeleton in
the closet, just an extra evil salazar spirit in the body.

> 
> 3. Vapour!Mort - no explanation has ever appeared telling us just
> what the nature of this thing is and yet it appears to be a unique
> phenomenon. When obvious questions are missed or glossed
> over, my  thumbs prickle. Is JKR hiding something?

Jo
Your thumbs prickle!
 
JKR hide something? Not possible!

> 
> 4. If Voldy is a combinant it would maybe explain why DD calls him
> "Tom" to his face, even though he tells the kids to call him Lord
> Voldemort. If possession has taken place, DD obviously believes that
> some part  of Tom still exists. 
> Is he trying to persuade Tom to choose anew? To  break free with an
> inevitable weakening effect on the possessing entity?

Jo
Redemption is always a possibility, Tom has a better chance than Snape
(Joke).
> 
> 5. "There are worse things than death, Tom." 
> Eternal servitude to an evil master, perhaps?

Jo
Repetitive thumb prickling
> 
> 6. Vapour!Mort (possibly essence of Salazar) may be immortal or
> nearly so, but to meet his performance targets he needs a body.
> Tom did fine until he got in the way of a rebounding spell. The 
> senior partner in the Voldy team doesn't want to go through the
> palaver of breaking in a new  host again, so the graveyard scene
> was about producing an immortal carrier.

Jo
If hosts are heirs then no bodies left, immortal carrier becomes
priority, we know Voldemort was trying to find immortality before the
unfortunate vapourisation perhaps this is why. 
> 
> 7. Harry's memories of the Godric's Hollow incident (PoA chap 9)
> are interesting, particularly if you have a suspicious mind. Lily
> is pleading with  Voldy and she asks him not to 'take' Harry,  but
> to take her, kill her instead. Now 'take' can be used as an alternative
> for kill, as in 'take a life' but it's use here when Harry is at the
wrong
> end of a wand seems a bit strange; 'kill' or 'hurt' would be a more
> common usage. Maybe Voldy  wanted to possess Harry too.

Jo
Suspicious mind, you hum it, I'll sing it.
Maybe Voldy thought he could transfer to Harry in place of Tom,
picking up the powers that he 'knows not' into the bargain.

"You do  not seek to kill me, Dumbledore? called Voldemort"
.....stuff.....
"We both know that there are other ways of destroying a man, Tom"
Dumbledore said calmly".
Knobbled from the inside out, that can't be pretty (the thumb
prickling alone will drive you crazy).


> 
> 8. Lily is killed, Voldy tries to nail Harry. Strangely, Harry can
recall
> only one green flash; why not two? Some may argue that Lily was
> holding Harry and Voldy was going for two birds with one spell, but
> in that case why did the spell rebound? It hit, or partially hit, it's
> intended target - Lily. Why  would there be a powerful enough 
> rebound to destroy Voldy? 

Jo
Old magic my son, old magic. Voldy comes from a long line of heirs
passing on their inner salazar, presumably by some old magic. Lily is
protecting Harry with more vintage witchery. They come together and *bang*

> 
> 9. AKs cause no physical damage at all, judging by the state of Cedric.
> So how come a rebound totally destroys Voldy's body? 
> The spell transferred parts of Voldy into Harry. Seems a bit odd - why 
> would a killing spell transfer bits of the killer into a soon to be
corpse?
> 
Jo
Perhaps transfer of Salazar essence causes death in prior host, Lily
deflected transfer, leaving it incomplete, so death also incomplete. 

> See, it raises my paranoia index when there are loose ends like these
> flapping around, and if it's possible to cobble 'em together and come
> up with a theory as a possible explanation as to what's going on, it 
> makes it even more interesting. Even if nobody agrees with me.
> 
> Kneasy

Yup!

Regards
Jo