Explosion at GH: but still: Snape once again puts 2 & 2 together...)

[Susan]

No: HPFGUIDX 100895

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vmonte" <vmonte at y...> wrote:
> Susan wrote:
> If Snape was going to do anything even remotely redemptive in
> Harry's_ eyes, Snape's motivation for doing such would have nothing
> to do with actual redemption. It would concern his own reasons for
> either hating LV or sucking up to DD or getting recognition from the
> MoM, etc. The Slytherine Way.
> 
> The only thing that bothers me about this is that it goes back to 
the
> pure speculation that LV did something *personally* to Snape, which
> seems to inevitably bring us back to him having a family or love 
life
> and of course, the twins;-), which I just cannot picture. I totally
> agree that there obviously has to be some kind of motivation for
> Snape to stop being a DE, and I can't wait to find out what that 
is...
> 
> vmonte responds:
> 
> I keep thinking about how JKR likes to trick us with mistaken
> identity. Harry sees himself at the lake in PoA but he 
misunderstands
> what he sees. He thinks he sees his father. We've had fake Moody,
> Harry as James, Harry and Ron as Crab and Goyle, etc. She will
> probably do this again. James and Lily are both dead--there's no
> doubt about this. Their echos both come out of Voldemort's wand. If
> Harry goes back in time things are not going to work out the way he
> wants them to. Hermione's comments about wizards killing their 
future
> and past selves may come true--and I'm not just talking about Harry.
> What if other people follow Harry to GH. Also, we already have a
> shape shifter (Tonks) in the series. What if she is evil (or what if
> there is another as yet unknown DE metamorph). They could go back in
> time and mislead Harry by morphing into someone he loves or by
> morphing into 18 year old Harry and really mess things up...
> 
> Also, I've been thinking about Sirius remark to Snape in the 
> Shreiking Shack. Something about: 'As usual Snape, you've put two
> and two together and have come up with the wrong answer.'
> What if Snape had to make sure that Harry lived up until the point 
he
> goes back in time to GH.
> What if 45 year old Snape followed Harry back. And what if Snape
> needs to go back to correct a mistake that happened that night. He
> may not have access to time-travel until Harry goes back.
> 
> What if Snape put two and two together that night and accidently
> killed his future self (or made some other huge mistake). You know
> the explosion at GH really does seem like someone was trying to 
cover
> up something. Did they find body parts there? Could the hand of 
Glory
> be belong to someone that was at GH?

Ooh, neat.  I admit to being very curious about the fact that there 
was an explosion and the house was destroyed.  Now, even though we 
don't know anything about what happened at the Longbottoms, I don't 
recall JKR saying anywhere that AKs (or Imperios)caused explosions, 
houses to collapse, etc.  Just how did the house get destroyed?

Also, love the idea about mistaken identity, and really love the idea 
about another metamorph.  Why else tell us about that?  I am really 
curious to know who, exactly, was there at GH.  I know this has been 
brought up before, but I don't recall any satisfying conclusions.  I 
personally don't believe the ESE!Lupin, though it's really 
interesting, and I don't think it would have been possible for Remus 
to be there at GH for several reasons, but time-turners and other 
time related devices do exist.  If you're on the side of evil, you 
probably don't have any reservations about using them for your own 
evil purposes.  Plus, if you can morph, or use the polyjuice, etc., 
to be someone else... nearly anyone could have been there. (And 
hmmm... Snape's really good at making potions...)

We know Sirius arrived too late.  So did Hagrid, and therefore McG 
and DD didn't know until after the fact.  But those of the DE?  

Another issue of mine, that I've mentioned before, is Crouch!Moody.  
That was an excellent switch, and I thought he was a cool teacher as 
well (and found it curious that real!Moody's weird eye worked for 
fake!Moody), but where the hell was the real!Moody when all this was 
going on at GH?  He's supposed to be a really great Auror, and one 
who likes to bring in the baddies rather than just killing them.  
Wouldn't he be in the thick of things?

Obviously, looking for all kinds of comments ;-)

Susan (who knows this post is all over the place, and who also likes 
the idea that maybe the real Moody will be a DADA teacher at some 
point.)