What if other teachers behaved like Snape?
darrin_burnett
bard7696 at aol.com
Sun Jun 13 19:05:15 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 101117
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "delwynmarch"
<delwynmarch at y...> wrote:
> Darrin wrote :
> > Snape punishes Harry for the sins of his father (while apparently
> > ignoring the kindness of Harry's mother.)
> >
> > So, things that happened before Harry was born, committed by a
man
> > Harry barely remembers, are somehow worthy of Harry being treated
> > like crap by this guy.
> >
> > But we learn in OoP that two other Hogwarts teachers, McGonagall
and Hagrid, are also Order of the Phoenix members.
>
> Del replies :
> I would just like to point out that there's a major difference
between
> Snape and Hagrid/McG : their age. There's a whole generation
> difference between them. When the first LV War broke out, Hagrid and
> McG were already adults, while Snape was a kid. Snape grew up in the
> War, his whole outlook on life was shaped by it.
Snape's views on Harry have nothing to do with the war. They have to
do with things that happened when he was a teenager.
Hagrid and McGonagall lost friends to their students' fathers. And
while I'm at it, Draco has done everything he can think of to get
Hagrid fired, and Hagrid still treats him professionally.
So maybe Snape was "shaped" by the war. (And let us also remember
which side of the war he started on.) But McGonagall and Hagrid were
actually fighting it when Snape's world was battling with James and
Sirius.
> About kids paying for their fathers' sins : in France, we are barely
> starting to talk about the kids who were born during the WWII and
who had a French mother and a German father, and we're horrified by
what we're discovering. There was nothing more innocent than those
kids, and yet many of them were treated in ways that would make the
> Dursleys' treatment of Harry look heavenly in comparison.
There you go again. Anything to downplay the mental and physical
abuse Harry suffered, huh?
And again, we're not talking about innocent kids when we're talking
about Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle. (We don't know Nott too well) We're
talking about Hitler Youth.
These brats have tried to get Hagrid fired AND they worked against
teachers while being members of the Inquisition Squad.
They are starting to come into their own, sins-wise, and yet they are
STILL treated professionally.
> I don't think Snape is a nice guy. But I do think he has to be
judged against people with similar backgrounds, and neither Hagrid
nor McG are such people.
I'm judging him as a teacher. Someone entrusted with responsibility.
I don't care if someone else is older. Are we REALLY saying that
Hagrid has more self-control than Snape?
Yes, we are.
Pretty pathetic on Snape's part.
> Darrin said :
> > Maybe when people whine about how bad the Slyths have it, they
> > should remember how the other teachers manage to behave in ways
> > Snape is incapable of.
>
> Del replies :
> You've said it, Snape is incapable of doing better. He's been bent
by everything that happened to him or that he did, and expecting him
to be normal is unrealistic.
And yet we expect Harry to be. And we don't seem to have a problem
judging him.
Oh, that's right. He treats the Creevey brothers badly. He gets into
a fight with Hermione over a broom.
How dare he.
Darrin
-- AND SNAPE IS STILL THE ADULT!!!!
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