Teenage Harry goes back in time to Godric's Hollow

lilysphoenix deb_mathews at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jun 16 15:20:53 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 101758

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lucinda428" <lucinda428 at y...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" 
<willsonkmom at m...> 
> wrote:
> > vmonte wrote:
> > snip
> > > 
> > > Harry realizes that he was there (as a child and as an 18 year 
> > old).
> > > He goes back but cannot save Lily from death. (Snape is also 
> there 
> > > but he is one of the bad guys.) Eighteen year old Harry is 
> killed 
> > > there--because he saves Snape's life.  Snape owes Harry. 
Because 
> > > Harry looks like James, people assume that it is him in the 
> > rubble.  
> > > Snape carries Harry away and somehow puts a stopper on his 
> death.  
> 
> 
> Vmonte - While not wishing to quibble with your dream (you have 
much 
> better dreams than I do!), a perhaps even more exciting prospect is 
> that Harry does go back in time, does fail to save Lily, but IS the 
> cause of his own survival.  There is the matching wands thing and 
> all its inherent surprises, for a start.  (Alternatively, if you 
> want to read the prophecy the other way, Neville could be the means 
> of intervention just as easily.)  
> 
> Snape's involvement is an interesting thesis, but not necessary to 
> the success of the basic premise.

I like the idea of a teenage Harry being at GH that night.  Here are 
my reasons: (that I can recall at the moment ;))

1) In PoA (the movie), when Harry comes into contact with the 
Dementors, he hears his mother's screams.  Something that I didn't 
notice the first time around, is that Lily is screaming "Harry!"  
Sure, she could have called his name as she threw herself in front of 
him to shield him from Voldemort's curse, but what if she were 
calling out to him instead.  What if he were there, and she were 
calling out to him for help?  It just seems like "No!" would have 
been the more appropriate reaction to someone trying to attack your 
child while you throw yourself in front of them.  

2) The theme of the movie was obviously time.  There was of course, 
the huge clock on the castle and the huge swinging pendulum that were 
in several scenes. At one point Harry is shown standing behind the 
clock (which is erie forshadowing if you ask me). There was a sundial 
in the scene where Heromine punches Malfoy.  There was even ticking 
in the music.  

3) The Lupin/Harry scene on the bridge.  Lupin tells Harry "Your more 
like them than you know, in TIME you will come to see just how much."
We also know that in the book, Lupin had the strange look when he 
asks Harry, "You heard James?" (or something like that, I don't have 
my book handy.) What if this was because he knew that Harry was 
actually hearing himself?

4)  Sirius tells Harry right before he escapes with Buckbeak, "The 
ones we love never truly leave us."
  
We know that JKR tells us that there were things in PoA the movie, 
that forshadowed what will happen in books 6 and 7.  I think these 
could be some of those things.  What do you think?  






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