Teenage Harry goes back in time to Godric's Hollow

[lucinda428]

No: HPFGUIDX 101855

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lilysphoenix" 
<deb_mathews at s...> wrote:
> --- (snipped!)
> 
> I like the idea of a teenage Harry being at GH that night.  Here 
are 
> my reasons: (that I can recall at the moment ;))
> 
> 1) In PoA (the movie), when Harry comes into contact with the 
> Dementors, he hears his mother's screams.  Something that I didn't 
> notice the first time around, is that Lily is screaming "Harry!"  

> > 2) The theme of the movie was obviously time.  > 
> 3) The Lupin/Harry scene on the bridge.  Lupin tells Harry "Your 
more 
> like them than you know, in TIME you will come to see just how 
much."
> We also know that in the book, Lupin had the strange look when he 
> asks Harry, "You heard James?" 
> 
> 4)  Sirius tells Harry right before he escapes with Buckbeak, "The 
> ones we love never truly leave us."
 
> We know that JKR tells us that there were things in PoA the movie, 
> that forshadowed what will happen in books 6 and 7.  I think these 
> could be some of those things.  What do you think?


I completely agree that POA (movie) is making the time theme even 
more clear than it was in the book.  I noted most of the things you 
have in that regard.  I'm sure time is going to be one of the keys, 
because of the room in the Ministry of Magic in OOTP which is 
devoted to some form of time experiment.  It is irrelevant to the 
Book 5 story but quite a lot is made of it. (Maybe a more 
sophisticated device than the time turner awaits us in later 
books.)  I've also just noticed that the first time we meet 
Dumbledore, in Privet Drive, he consults "a very odd watch".

Between your view that Lupin thinks James wasn't really there, and 
Vmonte's view that it was Harry's body, not James's, in the rubble 
(both of which are fascinating ideas) the question arises - where 
WAS James?  (Surely a stray stag would have been noticed in Godric's 
Hollow?)  If Lupin knew the answer, it would suggest it was a full 
moon and James was off minding him, but wasn't it very dark the 
night Harry was deposited on the Dursleys' doorstep?  

Also, for it to be Harry's body, we have to deal with the fact that 
James came out of Voldemort's wand in GOF beside Lily, so presumably 
that means he did die at a point in time reasonably close to her.  
To get round that one, you would have to postulate that it WAS an 
older Harry who died, however the Harry we have always known 
actually IS James (time-turned). But that won't work because (a) 
Harry has Lily's eyes, and (b) those who knew James think Harry is 
similar but not the same.  Where it gets murky (you thought it 
already HAD?) is that both of them bear an almost equally striking 
resemblance to Tom Riddle.  So if all three of those characters 
were, by some quirk of time, 18 the day Harry Lived, they would ALL 
look similar. Anybody want to run with THAT ball?

On an unrelated note (except that it's still about time) the 
interpolation that really fascinated me in the POA movie was that 
the Harry in the first run-through feels physical pain when the 
stone is thrown at him by Harry in the later run-through. That feels 
very significant to me.  One possibility is that the pain Harry 
always feels in the scar when Voldemort does things is across time, 
not across space as we have hitherto supposed.  But there could be 
lots of other ways this info is relevant.