What's wrong with being bad ?

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Sat Jun 19 22:09:58 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 102061

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "darrin_burnett" <bard7696 at a...> wrote:
> 
> > Kneasy: 
> > Exactly. I've seen posts where Slytherins have been compared to the 
> KKK, 
> > to the Nazis and name calling as equivalent to, or likely to lead 
> to, another
> > Holocaust.
> > Plain silly. And disrespectful to those who survived the reality.
> > And I  shall continue to  say so.

> Darrin: 
> Silly, eh?
> 
> Calling for the extermination of an entire race?
>
> Using hoods to do their dirty work?
> 
> Casually dropping racial slurs?
> 
> Conspiring in the Legislature/Parliament to strike down laws giving a 
> race more rights?
> 
> If the hood fits, wear it.
> 
> Tell me, if the majority of the Slytherins we've seen are really just 
> fictional characters and we can't do anything about JKR's 
> characterization, why are you so obsessed with defending racists at 
> best and genocidal madmen at worst?
> 
> Because it really does read like an obsession. :)
> 
> Darrin

Just can't stay away can you, despite your promises. 
Well, since it was one of your posts  that compared Slytherins to the KKK,
perhaps you'd like to expand on your theory.

Tell us how many people the kids of Slytherin House have killed, tortured
and driven from their homes. Not DEs, 'cos they're not exclusively Slytherin,
(Peter, remember?). Perhaps they sneak out at Hogsmead weekends and
terrorise neighbourhoods, 12 year old proto-wizards swigging Butterbeer
and bragging about how they're going to stop Hermione from attending
Hogwarts by blowing up the train tracks.

And perhaps they do nothing of the kind.
Perhaps they indulge in a little light bullying and name-calling.
Just as canon tells us they do.

Who's calling for the extermination of a race? The Slytherins? 
Quote canon please. 
Draco has revelled in the idea of mudblood deaths, but who takes
much notice of him? Nobody, unless his dad buys them a racing broom.

Hoods? What hoods? You think the DEs are *subordinate* to the kids
in Slytherin House? That the kids issue contracts on enemies from the
comfort of their common-room and their heavies go out and AK
someone for them? What an original idea! Why didn't JKR think of that?
What? You didn't mean that? But you claim Slytherin are the bane
of mankind, racists, murderers, evil personified. Make your mind up,
for Heavens sake.

Racial slurs? What race? Mudbloods/Muggles aren't a race any more than  
Metamorphagi are a race. You probably  missed it, but Admin curtailed
discussions on this aspect last year; too many people had fixed, intransigent
opinions and the discussion degenerated into name-calling on the site.
So I'll restrain myself from expounding on the sociological divisions in the
Potterverse, with particular reference to the aggressive/defensive posture
of minorities (so-called purebloods) that perceive themselves as being 
threatened by the majority, even when it ain't so. 

Fixing the Legislature - ah! Muggle hunting. That what you mean?
So is it legal, this Muggle-hunting? No? Oh, dear, there goes that point
into the dustbin of failed arguments.
Or is it Goblins you're on about? The ones that almost nobody really trusts
and many fear could join Voldy?

Defending racists and genocidal madmen -  sorry, don't recognise that
description. Re-phrase it to "Willing to counter gross exaggeration,
distortion of canon, deliberately provocative phraseology, lack of a sense
of proportion and self-appointed arbiters of what is or is not acceptable" 
and I might respond.

Or I might not. 
I prefer a little variety to my posts, something yours seem to lack.
They all seem to be on the same subject, endlessly repeating the same mantra.
Now what was the definition of 'obsessional', again?

Kneasy





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