What's wrong with being bad ?

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 102062


> > Darrin: 
> > Silly, eh?
> > 
> > Calling for the extermination of an entire race?
> >
> > Using hoods to do their dirty work?
> > 
> > Casually dropping racial slurs?
> > 
> > Conspiring in the Legislature/Parliament to strike down laws 
giving a 
> > race more rights?
> > 
> > If the hood fits, wear it.
> > 
> > Tell me, if the majority of the Slytherins we've seen are really 
just 
> > fictional characters and we can't do anything about JKR's 
> > characterization, why are you so obsessed with defending racists 
at 
> > best and genocidal madmen at worst?
> > 
> > Because it really does read like an obsession. :)
> > 
> > Darrin
> 
> Just can't stay away can you, despite your promises. 

Not so long as you're calling other peoples' ideas and values silly.

> Well, since it was one of your posts  that compared Slytherins to 
the KKK, perhaps you'd like to expand on your theory.

The overwhelming majority of the DEs are Slytherin. The DEs play 
around in hoods, torture Muggles for sport, casually drop the word 
mudblood, which is an obvious parallel to the "N" word and use their 
political power to keep minorities down.

The parallels, both in actions, rituals, physical appearance and 
culture, are obvious.


> Tell us how many people the kids of Slytherin House have killed, 
tortured and driven from their homes. Not DEs, 'cos they're not 
exclusively Slytherin,
> (Peter, remember?). Perhaps they sneak out at Hogsmead weekends and
> terrorise neighbourhoods, 12 year old proto-wizards swigging 
Butterbeer and bragging about how they're going to stop Hermione from 
attending Hogwarts by blowing up the train tracks.
> 

Give them time. They'll get there.



> Perhaps they indulge in a little light bullying and name-calling.
> Just as canon tells us they do.

"Light" bullying. Now we have degrees of it. Is there no argument you 
won't resort to in order to mitigate how loathsome the Slytherins are?

Tell me, what is "heavy" bullying?

 
> Racial slurs? What race? Mudbloods/Muggles aren't a race any more 
than  Metamorphagi are a race. You probably  missed it, but Admin 
curtailed discussions on this aspect last year; too many people had 
fixed, intransigent opinions and the discussion degenerated into name-
calling on the site.


I suspect you were knee-deep in it if it degenerated into name-
calling, but I will carry on.

Muggle-borns ARE a separate race or bloodline. The Slytherins 
obviously think so, but even the Gryffindors and others think so. 

Hagrid: "You don't have to be pureblood."

Ron: "We intermarried long ago."

The difference is, like most folks with all their functioning 
chromosomes, the Weasleys don't see any problem with Muggle-borns 
having the same rights as pureblood wizards. 


> 
> Fixing the Legislature - ah! Muggle hunting. That what you mean?
> So is it legal, this Muggle-hunting? No? Oh, dear, there goes that 
point into the dustbin of failed arguments.

Lucius Malfoy tried to manipulate events so that Arthur Weasley and 
his Muggle-protection bill failed. I suggest re-reading Chamber of 
Secrets if you want more information.

Or perhaps your copy is in the dustbin.

> Defending racists and genocidal madmen -  sorry, don't recognise 
that description. 

Those that defend such rarely do.

 
> Or I might not. 
> I prefer a little variety to my posts, something yours seem to lack.
> They all seem to be on the same subject, endlessly repeating the 
same mantra. Now what was the definition of 'obsessional', again?

Well, there is so little time to post and so much of what you are 
posting on this topic. I'll be happy to take a break if you'd stop 
calling other people's ideas silly.

Until then, I suppose we'll just be obsessed together.

Darrin