[HPforGrownups] Re: SHIP Hermione & Ron /

[Barbara D. Poland-Waters]

No: HPFGUIDX 102622

Barbara bd-bear wrote:
> Harry was angry at the whole world in OOTP and rightfully so IMO. I
> don't think Hermione was ever really afraid of him. I think she
> backed down because she knew Harry was an emotional wreck, full of
> anger and volatile emotions and she didn't want to make it worse.

>>>Del replied :
In the scene where Harry tells Hermione about his vision of Sirius
being tortured and she stalls, he does scare her. In the other
instances I mentioned, it might be just my interpretation, but in that
scene it's pretty clear.


Barbara again:

Can you quote that passage for me? I can't think of what you're referring
to.



>>>Del again:
As for Harry being full of anger and volatile emotions, I don't really
take that as an excuse. Just because I'm feeling snappish doesn't mean
I have a right to go and snap at my friends. Just because he was
annoyed that they were contradicting him or arguing too often for his
taste didn't mean Harry had a right to yell or snap at his friends.
I've seen that too often in RL, people going "she's making me mad" or
"he made me do it", and I just don't buy it.<<<

<snip>



Barbara again:

I'm not making any excuses for Harry, per se, but you also can't compare
this situation to the real world. Yes, he's overwhelmingly angry and no, he
shouldn't take it out on his friends, but come on, this is a 15 year-old kid
who has had his life threatened repeatedly, who has no parents, no parental
figures (save one very rash godfather he practically JUST met and a
headmaster who has other duties other than to be his emotional support),
just saw a schoolmate murdered by the most feared wizard around, plus he's
in constant physical pain what with his scar and being fed visions of his
friend's father being attacked. . . Give the kid a break!


Barbara bd-bear wrote:
> I don't think either Ron or Harry have really shown much interest in
> what interests her (her schoolwork, S.P.E.W., etc.).

>>>Del replied :
In a weird way, Ron has. He's officially acknowledged Hermione's
brains by stating that he couldn't write Snape's essay without her.
And the fact that he keeps fighting with her on the question of elf
rights shows that he does care about her concerns, even if it is in a
"negative" way. Harry, on the other hand, doesn't really care about
Hermione's brains (he's glad to get her help when she offers it but
that's it), and he sure couldn't care less about Hermione's concern
for the elves.<<<



Barbara again:

Of course Ron said that, he was desperate for help in keeping up with his
homework. And if I were Hermione, I wouldn't want to start a relationship
with someone who's only interest in me came up when I could complete their
homework or who's always telling me I'm wrong about my crusade and to drop
the whole thing (S.P.E.W.), which I think Ron has done (maybe not in OOTP,
probably in GoF). I really don't think Ron cares anymore about Hermione's
elf rights campaign than Harry. Maybe he's just hiding it better in OOTP
because he's not as emotionally wrung out as Harry and constantly
preoccupied with life and death issues.


Barbara
bd-bear