SHIP Hermione & Ron /

[delwynmarch]

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Barbara bd-bear wrote:
> Harry was angry at the whole world in OOTP and rightfully so IMO. I 
> don't think Hermione was ever really afraid of him. I think she 
> backed down because she knew Harry was an emotional wreck, full of 
> anger and volatile emotions and she didn't want to make it worse.

Del replies :
In the scene where Harry tells Hermione about his vision of Sirius
being tortured and she stalls, he does scare her. In the other
instances I mentioned, it might be just my interpretation, but in that
scene it's pretty clear.
As for Harry being full of anger and volatile emotions, I don't really
take that as an excuse. Just because I'm feeling snappish doesn't mean
I have a right to go and snap at my friends. Just because he was
annoyed that they were contradicting him or arguing too often for his
taste didn't mean Harry had a right to yell or snap at his friends.
I've seen that too often in RL, people going "she's making me mad" or
"he made me do it", and I just don't buy it. Other people can annoy
me, they can make me feel angry, but as long as they don't Imperio me,
I can't say they made me do something. And as Hermione kept repeating
to Harry all year long : she and Ron are on Harry's side, so it'd be
nice if he didn't take his temper out on them. Friends are not there
to serve as punching-balls. And they should never have to deny their
own opinions just to make me feel better : their opinions are just as
worthy as mine, and if I can't respect that, I don't consider myself
as a good friend.

Barbara bd-bear wrote:
> I don't think either Ron or Harry have really shown much interest in
> what interests her (her schoolwork, S.P.E.W., etc.).

Del replies :
In a weird way, Ron has. He's officially acknowledged Hermione's
brains by stating that he couldn't write Snape's essay without her.
And the fact that he keeps fighting with her on the question of elf
rights shows that he does care about her concerns, even if it is in a
"negative" way. Harry, on the other hand, doesn't really care about
Hermione's brains (he's glad to get her help when she offers it but
that's it), and he sure couldn't care less about Hermione's concern
for the elves.

Barbara bd-bear wrote:
> I'm not really rooting for her to end up with anybody in particular,
> if JKR does in fact pair them up, but I just wanted to weigh in that
> I don't think Harry's anger in OOTP was directed at her particularly
> and I certainly don't think she's afraid of him.

Del replies :
I'm not rooting for a particular pairing either, I'm rather fighting
*against* a particular pairing, for the time being. As the kids grow
up and mature, I might change my mind.
I didn't mean that Harry's anger was directed specifically towards
Herrmione, just that she and Ron were the ones that got most of it
since they are closest to Harry. And I explained how the fact that
Harry takes his anger out on them indicates to me that it wouldn't be
a good idea for Hermione to go out with him.
And there are several times in the book where it is obvious *to me*
that Hermione is backing down because she's afraid of what Harry might
do if she doesn't. But I understand that other people might not read
those incidents the way I do.

Del