More on Snape

Ava lethafaraday at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 23 21:33:49 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 102623

vmonte <vmonte at y...> wrote:
  <big snip>
> And I believe that the way he treats Hermione has something to do 
> with her heritage. Or does he hate her because she is a know-it-all? 
> No offense, good teachers love this kind of student because they 
> encourage the rest of the students to also excell.

   Not necessarily.  (That is, good teachers don't always love this 
kind of student, & this kind of student doesn't always encourage 
others to learn.  If little Janie is always shouting out the correct 
answer, her classmate Joe Shlunk may feel too intimidated to 
contribute.  Or he may wonder why he should bother, when Janie is 
always ready to share.  
   Now, a truly thought-provoking answer to a question is usually 
appreciated, & THAT may stimulate others to add their 2 cents, but 
that's a different issue.

probonoprobono <probono at r...> wrote:
> I just finished reading the passage in OOTP after Harry sees into 
> Snape's memories. Snape ignores Harry during class. Harry finds 
> that without all of Snape's harping, potions comes quite easily to 
> him (something we should remember, methinks). Harry proudly turns in 
> his potions, but the second his back is turned, his beaker 
> mysteriously falls off Snape's desk onto the floor, utterly 
> destroyed. Another zero for Harry, says Snape. 

Ava: Yes, and isn't that the priceless moment when Snape 
says "Whoops"? You can almost fill in JKR's invisible 
footnote: "yes, folks, it's ok to laugh at that. Poor Harry 
(snort)." 

> No, I personally don't see this as encouraging to any student. Any 
> student, period. Faced with the same situation, I probably would 
> have finally given up at that point, and quit trying. I certainly 
> could not see me trying harder, what's the point? 

Ava: And you've never had a teacher or boss like that? Lucky you!

> Okay, now for 2 other things. First, I really love Snape as a 
> character. I absolutely adore his utter vileness! I am a HUGE fan. 
> 
> Secondly, I also noticed when McGonagall is discussing with Harry 
> the career choice of Auror, she points out that you need to know 
> how to deal with working under extreme conditions. Now, we have seen 
> Harry "score" spectacular marks in this area in many, many real life 
> instances. However, I would consider Snape's class another type of 
> stress, one that Harry has not been able to yet overcome. We know 
> now that Harry is quite good at potions when left alone, but he will 
> need to get the highest marks possible in order to consider the 
> career of Auror, and with Snape around I don't see it. (Or maybe 
> he'll get lucky, and for some reason there will be a new potions 
> teacher next year?

Ava: And exactly HOW would this help him learn to deal with it? And 
furthermore, I thought you just said you really love Snape as a 
character. So now you want to get rid of him? Replace him with 
somebody nice? This would be an improvement? I think not. 


Ava





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