In the beginning
suehpfan
stanleys at sbcglobal.net
Tue Mar 2 21:57:21 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 91925
"annemehr" wrote:
Harry having mentioned his dreams about flying motorcycles earlier
in the chapter establishes that he does indeed have some memory of
that time, so I am inclined to trust this vision.
snip
Though I doubted it before, Phil (congusinglyso) could still be right
that the SuddenlyVapor!Mort tried to possess Harry; except that
rather than Hagrid taking Harry!Mort to be separated, Voldemort found
himself repelled right away, by means of the new scar, leaving a bit
of himself behind in Harry.
Could be, could be. I won't bet the house, though! ;-)
Naama wrote:
Nor would I. In fact, I'd bet the house the other way. We know from
OoP what a Voldemort possession feels to Harry - it was such pain
that he felt he was dying. If vapor!Voldemort had attempted to posses
him, it would have been the worst memory of his life, and it would
have been that memory which would resurface when being near Dementors.
Naama
Sue here:
I think the idea of Volde possessing Harry when he was a baby is very
interesting. I would add to annemehr's argument that since we do not
know all of the qualities of the scar or of what happened after
Voldemort used Harry's blood to reincarnate himself what effect
possession may have had on Harry. Harry has no memory of his scar
even twinging until he got to Hogwarts and Voldemort knows he cannot
touch Harry at the Dursley's. He would have had to try in order to
know that.
My thinking then, is that early on Harry's scar did not bother him
even when Voldemort was close, or if it did it was so minor it was
not memorable. If that is true, it is entirely possible that a
possession of the infant Harry would not have caused him great pain.
We also know that it was not until Voldemort regenerated himself with
Harry's blood that he was able to touch Harry. Like (IIRC) Phil
(confusinglyso) said, he would have been repelled by the charm (or
whatever) placed on Harry by Lilly and he would not have been able to
possess Harry at all.
I think this all goes back to the "essence divided" mentioned in
OotP. I said in another post early on that I believe it is possible
that what happened at Godrick's Hollow is that Voldemort's life force
was transfered to Harry. IOW, Harry actually "died" and was
immediatly filled with the life force of Tom Riddle by a rebounded
curse caused by some sort of charm used by Lilly. That way Harry
gains skills he would not have had and when Voldemort used Harry's
blood to regenerate himself they were in "essence" sharing the same
life force. "Neither can live while the other survives."
Pure wild speculation on my part and much longer than I expected but
I find it interesting!
Sue
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