Newbie and some questions about Slytherins
cubfanbudwoman
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Mar 4 13:35:24 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 92026
> Krissy:
> > > Ok, ok, I admit...I like the Slytherins. I feel kind of bad for
> > > them, because I don't know how many of them even have a freewill
> > > to decide how they behave and treat people.
> Siriusly Snapey Susan:
> > It may not be an
> > *easy* road to take to defy parents or tradition, but everyone
> > certainly has free will. Isn't that just about the most major
< < theme of the series to far, that it's more about our *choices*
> > than anything else?
> Silmariel:
> This is about choices? Well, a Griffindor chosed to Crucio another
> human being and I'm not saying he's a bad rotten apple. Have a
> Slytherin do it with identical motives and he'd be judged by
> the 'unforgivable' law. Slytherins are excluded and in that
> position is not no easy to choose. When gryffindor chose the 'good'
> side, they are taking the easy path. After all, it is what we
> expect from them.
>
> If a Griffindor in Harry's year is affected by his family
> prejudices, to ask that Slytherins, heavily prejudiced families,
> suddenly choose, is kind of a miracle.
<snip>
> But we don't have a clue of how the Slytherin house member's are.
> We know only the side that Harry knows, and Harry is a greatly
> prejudiced witness.
Susan:
First, do we know that when a Gryffindor chooses the "good side",
it's only because it's "easy"? It may be more "in their nature", but
that doesn't mean it's easy all the time.
Second, Harry certainly *is* a prejudiced witness, and I think that's
why lots of us are anxious to get to know some Slytherins better
somehow.
Third, ANYONE who stereotypes is at fault, no matter what house
he/she is in. I don't doubt that there is a LOT of stereotyping
going on, by the Gryffindors, the Slytherins, and even by staff
members like Hagrid. But I still don't see how this says an
individual's actions aren't based upon free will and their own
choices. As I said originally, I'm not saying the road is *easy* but
that it's **possible**. This is also what DD said when he said one
must choose what is right over what is EASY. He didn't say "wrong",
but "easy". Interesting choice of words.
I taught high school in an area which has had a long reputation for
Ku Klux Klan activity & a generally pervasive racist attitude. Some
of the students I had in class came from families where all they'd
heard was that Blacks were "niggers" or that we don't want "those
people" around, taking "our" jobs. Did that mean I was going to
allow those kids to spout off their canned racist remarks in my
classroom? Hell, no! Slytherins, Gryffindors, Ravenclaws, whomever--
stereotyping is a dangerous thing. You don't get off the hook just
because it's what your parents or grandparents thought. It's not
EASY, but choosing to listen & think as an individual is part of what
education is all about. The sorting hat raises this issue when it
talks about the need to unite. CHOOSING to raise a glass to Cedric
or Harry is another example. It's a harder choice for Slytherins, we
assume, because of the pressures & stereotypes. But even some
Gryffindors [Seamus, anyone?] have to think long & hard about what &
whom they believe in.
Not sure if this is addressing, exactly, what you were saying,
Silmariel. Sorry, if it's not.
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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