Shake-up at the Ministry

suehpfan stanleys at sbcglobal.net
Sat Mar 6 21:51:48 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 92352

 
tj Wrote:
I think that Arthur did get zapped by the Imperius curse for 2 
reasons.
 
1~  In GOF, in DADA class when Couch Jr. is showing the unforgiviable
curses, He did it in a very specific order.
       a~  Neville  crutious curse (the one that drove his parents out
           of their minds.)
 
       b~  Harry Avada Kadara (sp?) the curse that killed his parents
 
       c~   Ron imperius curse.. and he couldn't fight it very well at
  all.  He was still skipping every 3rd step, even when he
>             got out of class.  When everyone else was okay.
> 
> 2~  In COS when Harry got lost in the floo network, and came out in
> Knockturn alley.  Harry saw the Malfoys.  He told Ron and Arthur 
heard
> Harry.  He said oh I can't wait to get Malfoy (or something to that
> effect) and Molly says "Don't bite off more than you can chew".  And
> Arthur is insulted by what his wife has said.
> 
> 
> This says to me that Molly knows something we don't know.  And it
> involves Malfoy and AW.  
> 
> I think that Arthur is a strong person (you have to be to live with 
7
> children and a bossy wife).  
> 
> I like Arthur, and I will like him just as much if not more if he 
has
> had to suffer under the Imperius Curse; as well as, 7 rowdy children
> and a small bossy wife who can look like a saber tooth tiger when 
she
> is angry (or scared).

Here's my take on the reasons:  Ron is Ron and there is no reason to 
think his father would have the same response to Imperius.  
Especially considering he is an adult and fully trained.  We really 
have no idea what Arthur's particular talents (or shortcomings for 
that matter) are.

As far as biting off more than he can chew with Lucius Malfoy, 
Arthur's job at the ministry is tenuous.  We can only assume the 
reasons.  My belief is that this also has something to do with Lucius 
Malfoy.  What Lovely Lucius wants, he gets.  Especially with Fudge.  
It seems just as likely that LM is afraid of Arthur (to me) and 
therefore makes sure he is kept very far away from Fudge so that 
Malfoy's "dealings" with the MOM are not public knowledge. Remember, 
Malfoy harbors just as much apparent resentment against Arthur as the 
other way around.  If he really saw him as someone he could control 
at will, why care what he does? There is certainly no reason to get 
into a physical fight with someone who you consider weak.

The comment "...and I thought your family could sink no lower." (CoS 
US paperback, pg.62) has always bothered me.  Why?  This certainly 
has nothing to do with imperious.  It seems to go back farther than 
that IMHO.

If Arthur is aware of Fudge's shortcomings (as Molly said in GOF: "We 
know who Fudge is..."), he is close to DD, and possibly powerful 
enough to make an old DE nervous, then assuming some back history 
between Arthur and Lucius (that does not include Imperious), you have 
a reason for both men to hate the other.

As far as family leadership is concerned, when things got serious 
with Percy, it was Arthur who went to battle, not Molly.

I would like for *someone* other than DD and Harry to be strong 
enough to fight and win against Lucius Malfoy and the Imperious 
curse.  Arthur has my vote, still waters run deep.

Sue, who appologizes for the length of the post.





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