Snape and the MOM
justcarol67
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Sun Mar 14 00:00:46 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 92937
Carol wrote:> <snip>
The only "evidence" I know of is that Wormtail told LV that Sirius
was
an animagus and Malfoy told Snape that he saw Sirius in dog form at
Platform 9 3/4. That doesn't necessarily indicate that LV and Malfoy
know that Snape is in the Order. And I don't think Kreacher could
have
told Narcissa because he was under orders not to reveal the Order's
secrets, which would certainly include its membership.
Lynnette:
Is there actually canon stating Snape is still a DE? I mean, his
ability to discover what Voldemort is saying to his followers could
be because of something else... his legilimancy skills (used on best
bud Lucius perhaps?) Possibly being an unregistered animagus
himself? <snip> what if he has batlike chracteristics because he has
the animagus form of a bat? Sirius had a few doglike characteristics,
ie. his bark like laugh, etc.
Hi, Lynnette. I certainly didn't mean to imply that *I* think he's
still a DE, but I do think he's convincec Lucius Malfoy that he's
still loyal to LV and that Malfoy is (was) his contact ("Yes, Potter,
it's my job to find out what the Dark Lord is saying to his Death
Eaters"--paraphrased from OoP). What I was asking is whether Malfoy
and LV know that Snape is a member of the Order of the Phoenix. I
don't think they do.
I don't think Snape is an animagus or he wouldn't have needed Harry's
invisibility cloak in PoA. He could have just flown into the shrieking
Shack as a bat. I'm also not sure that he has *legilmency* skills
(casting the spell on Harry is different from trying to read Malfoy's
mind by looking into his eyes). I think he's just maintained his
connections and his credibility with Lucius, whose thinking he
understands quite well--better, I hope, than Lucius understands his.
*Occlumency,* however, can help Snape disguise his emotions and lie
convincingly not only to LV if he has to face him directly (I'm not
convinced that he does) but to someone like Malfoy, who has known him
for a long time and could probably read his expression if he didn't
keep both it and his thoughts under firm control. (I still think that
Malfoy's suspicions as to where Snape's loyalties really lie may be
aroused now after what happened at the MoM. I just hope that Malfoy
stays in Azkaban during Book 6 so we don't have to worry about him
seeking revenge against Snape until Book 7.)
BTW, if the identity of Lupin, Tonks, Shacklebolt, and Moody as Order
members was not previously known to LV, he knows it now because
Bellatrix has told him. That increases their danger, too.
Carol
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