Apparating into the Ministry...

[kashelkar]

No: HPFGUIDX 93020

> > Kashelkar's reply:
> > 
> > It's possible that the only place where apparation/disapparation 
is
> possible within MoM is the atrium, however, in the scene, when Harry
> lifts the prophecy from the stand, the DEs start apparating all 
around
> him, how's this possible??? Doesn't this indicate that, it's 
possible
> to apparate inside the DoM, that too in the hall of prophecies??
> 
> 
> I think they were simply hidden in the shadows, especially since 
Harry
> doesn't hear any popping sounds. He hears Lucius Malfoy's voice 
right
> behind him and his friends (OoP, Am. ed., 780), and then "black
> shapes" simply appear, noiselessly,  "out of thin air" all around 
him
> (781). "Out of thin air" is, I think, his impression of the event
> rather than fact, just as "he knew he was dead" *815) and "there was
> no escape" (816) are his impressions. For the reasons already 
given, I
> don't think the DEs could apparate into the DoM, or the particular
> chamber where Harry finds the prophecy. They must already have been
> there, having taken the lift just as Harry and his friends did. 
Maybe
> they even unlocked all the doors but one, which even Malfoy couldn't
> magically open. At any rate, it seems clear that they were already 
in
> the chamber, waiting in the darkness for Harry to remove the 
prophecy
> from the shelf and for Malfoy to speak before emerging from the
> shadows, blocking the way in every direction with their wands held 
out.
> 
> Carol

Kashelkar's reply:

If the DEs were hiding in the DoM for some time before HP and his 
gang entered MoM, what kept Voldy from going to MoM alongwith his 
DEs, and pick the prophecy himself, then disapparate, and leave the 
DEs to finish off the HP and gang?? If the DEs could get that far in 
the MoM without raising any alarm, then Voldy must also be able to do 
the same.
Also, is it not risky for the DEs to keep lurking in the DoM?? What 
if HP didn't turn up after all??  What if MoM officials and Aurors 
turned up instead??  Who'd take such high risk??  

Another curious question:  Why the DEs didn't even try to put the 
Imperious Curse on HP and his gang members (after all they have their 
backs at the DEs)??  If successful, that'll solve a hell lot of 
problems for the DEs.  Also, isn't it foolish on part of Lucius to 
explain the importance of the glass orb to HP??