Snape and the MOM

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 93033

Carol:
> > > I also don't think that Snape has to report everything that 
> > > happens at Hogwarts, so there's no reason for him to say 
> > > anything about Umbridge. He also would have no way of 
> > > *instantly* notifying LV that Harry was missing
 
Susan:
> > How do we know that, Carol?  Didn't DD tell Harry at the end of 
> > OoP that Order members have "more reliable means of 
> > communication" than fireplaces?  He didn't explain what those 
> > means are but left it open for a futute revelation.  (Fawkes, for 
> > one, seems to have some pretty powerful magical abilities; I 
> > wonder if he can't provide almost instantaneous communication?)  
> > Anyway, if DD & the Order have such means, why might not Voldy & 
> > his henchmen/women?  

Carol: 
> The means of communication DD talks about are for members of the
> Order, not for Snape communicating with LV. Whatever means Snape has
> for communicating with DD (and I think he must have used them to
> summon DD to Grimmauld Place on the night of the MoM battle), we can
> be sure he doesn't use the same means to communicate with LV. He's
> certainly not going to communicate with LV using Fawkes. We can also
> be pretty sure that Crouch Jr. communicated with LV by owl (the 
> eagle owl dream almost certainly refers to a real eagle owl that 
> Harry sees flying over the Forbidden Forest--I can look up the 
> quote if you need it). I'm still convinced, BTW, that Snape's 
> primary means of communication with LV and the DEs is some sort of 
> arrangement with Malfoy. If there were some sort of instrument in 
> his office that he uses, wouldn't Crouch Jr. have found it in his 
> search?

Susan:
I absolutely do not agree.  The point I was trying to make is that I 
believe adult wizards--particularly those who have advanced skills--
know about additional means of communication beyond those available 
to Hogwarts students.  If the Order members have **as-yet-undescribed-
by-DD** means of quick, reliable communication, why would it be so 
hard to believe that Voldy and his followers have quick, reliable 
means of communications themselves?  (Isn't the Dark Mark a pretty 
quick, reliable means of communicating *something*?)  No, I didn't 
think Snape used Fawkes, nor even that his means of contacting Voldy 
are the same means that he uses for contacting DD, but I just don't 
think we *know* anything much at all about the multiple ways 
communication can occur in the WW, and I think we should be cautious 
about assumptions of what *isn't* possible.   

I don't even want to go into the rest of this because I think we're 
arguing in circles.  Suffice it to say, for me, Snape can make an 
excuse any time he needs to by virtue of his position as "spy" for 
the DEs.  There are things he can't do or say if he doesn't want to 
compromise DD's trust, and if Voldy wants to keep Snape close to DD, 
he's going to have to allow things in Snape's behavior that he 
wouldn't tolerate in others.  Snape has a *tricky* path to walk, but 
I believe he's smart & crafty enough to find excuses for the 
information he does not pass along.  (You kind of said this, too, in 
your very first sentence, above).  I would argue that the more 
volatile the information, the more Snape can argue to Voldy that he 
has to be careful not to tip off DD.  

Siriusly Snapey Susan