Apparating into the Ministry...

[kashelkar]

No: HPFGUIDX 93730

Catherine said:  --snipped--
> 
> I agree with Carol that the DE's themselves did not enter the 
> Ministry until the last moment .....
Bellatrix says that LV 
> didn't want to "risk" going into the MoM and being seen.
> So perhaps 
> the DE's were not entirely sure that it would be possible to get
> as  far as they did without raising any alarm at all. It's one thing
> for them to risk being seen, especially if they think they can 
escape, but not LV, who is supposedly still disembodied. Also, as LV 
enjoys the psychological side of torture as much as the physical, 
presumably he rather likes the idea of Harry being his own undoing.


kashelkar's reply:
 
 Here I'd like to clarify certain things:  The entire OOP book 
 revolves around the prophecy.  The plot involving the prophecy and 
 Voldy's desire to capture it, is the backbone of the book.  Hence 
it must be made clear beyond any reasonable doubts that it was 
 IMPOSSIBLE for Voldy (for some reason or other) to go and grab the 
 prophecy himself at any point of time.  However, this is not very 
 clear in the book.
 
 I don't agree with Catherine's statement:  "...So perhaps the DE's 
 were not entirely sure that it would be possible to get as far as 
 they did without raising any alarm at all. ....."  

Kashelkar's reply:
 
Obviously, if the DEs were discovered entering the MoM, the 
security there would be tightened, and even Voldy won't be able to 
break-in afterwards.  So, this was their first and last chance, and 
hence the DEs must have done a lot of homework on this.  Informations 
such as anti-burglary spells put on the MoM, the security persons, 
their habits etc etc. had to be gathered and analysed properly. 
Obviously, no one would be able to break into the office of a 
ministry as and when he wishes.  And here we also must assume this, 
that the break-in at the MoM was carefully planned and executed by 
Voldy and DEs. And therefore, I must say that it was most simple for 
Voldy to plan his own journey to and fro MoM, rather than plan HP's 
journey.  In execution of any plan there are numerous things which 
can go wrong. However, when you yourself are a part to the execution, 
you can keep atleast some of the things under control.  (eg.  what if 
Harry couldn't get any transport?? what if some professor at Hogwarts 
 stopped him??  What if Snape was able to contact him with the news 
that Sirius is safe?? What if he could not escape from Umbridge?? 
 What if Hermione, after all, was able to contain him, and he 
decided not to go???  What if he met with an accident on his way and 
could not make it to the MoM??? There are so many ifs and buts...  
All these (and many more) questions must get the right answers for 
Voldy's plan to succeed and he doesn't have any influence over these 
events at all.  If Harry doesn't go to MoM that time, he'd soon come 
to know abt the reality, and then in future he'd never react to 
such 'visions'in haste.)
> 
 And hence, I feel that it was most natural for Voldy to plan the 
 break-in at MoM in such a manner that He himself would be able to 
go there and grab the prophecy.  I don't think that this was a 
difficult task, a little more caution, a little more carefulness and 
he gets what he desires.  He could disguise himself in different ways 
for this (invisibility cloak, polyjuice potion etc).  Bringing HP to 
MoM to do all this looks highly far-fetched.  Once you think this 
way, the climax of the book is not fun to read at all (unlike CoS, 
where the plot is very convincing and the climax is fun to read again 
and again).
 
Once his job is done, then however, Voldy may show HP the 'vision' 
and see if he really turns up.  In this case, he can arrange to 
inform/ alarm the MoM abt HP entering MoM illegaly and get him 
caught.  Which should please his saddist soul.....