JKR didn't say "No: was re: Life-saving bonds
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Mar 31 16:43:23 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 94681
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "naamagatus"
<naama_gat at h...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999"
<foxmoth at q...> >
>
> > But she didn't say that! She said, "Erm...I don't think so." And
> > since she knows all about Snape, that's evasive,IMO. An
> > interviewer wouldn't have let her get away with it, but
fortunately
> > for her, there's no possibility for follow-up questions in a chat.
> >
> >
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/JKRWorldBookDay2004.html
> >
> > It's like, "Mum, does this receipt from the bicycle shop I
> > found in the bin have anything to do with Bobby's Christmas
> > present?" At which point Mum realizes that little Bobby is
> > listening hard, and says:
> >
> > "Erm...I don't think so." Meaning, 'Well-spotted, but don't let's
> > spoil the surprise.' <g>
>
>
> But in this case, when Mum says "I don't think so", she is
telling a lie. It's a lie, because in common usage, if you ask
somebody something, and they say "I don't think so", you take it
to mean "as far as I know, no." As in (upon hearing of
ESE!Lupin) I would ask, "Pippin, are you totally crazy?", to which
you can answer, truthfully, "I don't think so." Meaning, "as far as
I
know, no, I'm not crazy." <g>
>
> When JKR said "I don't think so", she knows (as anyone would
who is an English speaker) that it's immediately interpreted as
"as far as I know, no." So, if she said it and Snape *is* a
vampire, then she deliberately tried to create a false impression
with the participants; which is to lie. <
You've never heard anyone say, "I don't think so, I *know* so"? To
think is to exercise the power of reason, and of course, JKR
does not need to reason out whether Snape is a vampire or not.
As I pointed out earlier, JKR herself uses such a construction in
one of the very first references to Snape, "At the start of term
banquet, Harry had got the idea that Professor Snape disliked
him. By then end of the first Potions lesson he knew he'd been
wrong. Professor Snape didn't dislike Harry--he *hated* him."
-PS/SS ch.8 emphasis JKR's.
Dumbledore himself says something deliberately ambiguous in
OOP: "Tonight was supposed to be the first meeting" -- where
Fudge takes the meaning of "supposed" as "intended" but we
know that Dumbledore really means the other sense:
"presumed to be true without conclusive evidence."
This is a deliberate attempt to mislead. But Dumbledore doesn't
appear to regard it as lying--more like he's giving Fudge a choice
about how to interpret his words, and letting Fudge jump to
conclusions.
All the books are filled with deliberate attempts to create false
impressions...that's what mystery stories are about! But when
you have all the facts, you see how you were led to misinterpret,
for example, Snape's actions at the first Quidditch match, or what
Quirrell meant when he said "C-can't t-tell you how p-pleased I
am to meet you." Rowling explains her attitude in the following
quote:
Reader's Digest
December 2000
J.K. Rowling: The Wizard Behind Harry Potter Tim Bouquet
http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2000/1200-readersdige
st-boquet.htm
"Readers loved to be tricked, but not conned."
IMO, if she says, "No" plainly and the answer turns out to be 'Yes'
that would be a con. But if she gives an obviously cagey answer,
and we let our own eagerness to have the matter settled supply
a certainty that isn't there, then we've conned ourselves, which is
a very different matter. I'm perfectly willing to entertain the idea
that Snape isn't a vampire, but she gave a cagey answer
because she hates to spoil a theory. But I can't see that she gave
a cagey answer because she wanted the matter closed.
Pippin
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