Over Kill with Dementors

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 98084

Siriusly Snapey Susan [who's spelling out the whole thing since there 
are oodles of Susans here] previously wrote:
>>> 1) Can dementors force an animagi to transform himself back 
into a human?<<<
 
Pippin replied:
>> Lupin says  that dementors are supposed to be able to drain a 
wizard of his powers. Sirius says he was able to keep his 
powers and transform in his cell only because the thought that 
he was innocent gave him the strength--it wasn't a happy thought 
so the dementors couldn't take it from him.  But once outside 
Azkaban, it seems that thought wasn't strong enough.<<


SSSusan again:
Hmmm.  I think we may be seeing part this differently.  You're 
pointing to Sirius' saying that in Azkaban he had that "I'm innocent" 
thought bopping around in his head all the time, which wasn't a happy 
thought, so he could continue to transform.  So, now that he's out of 
Azkaban & has hooked up with Harry and started to sort all this out--
and he is HAPPY about that--is it that the Dementors have more to 
feed on?  I could maybe buy that....  But right at the moment all 
this happens, he's also angrier than all get-out at Pettigrew, and 
probably at least worried if not outright panicked as Lupin begins to 
transform, so his emotions are a mixed bag.  Does that give the 
Dementors enough to feed on?

Regardless of the answer to that, I guess my main question is 
still, "WHATEVER type of emotion Sirius was experiencing, can 
Dementors FORCE someone in animagus form to transform back into human 
form?"  I mean, he'd already transformed into Padfoot and was clearly 
in dog form when Harry first hears him yelping as the Dementors 
approach, yet he's human by the time Harry sees him.  Maybe the 
Dementors did cause it, but I don't quite see how they would 
have....  Given Scabbers' 12 years in rat form, it seems that, once 
transformed, it doesn't take a continuous magical effort to stay 
transformed.  That is, I don't think Sirius was having to concentrate 
on staying Padfoot and the Dementors somehow broke that 
concentration.  So can they really MAKE him perform the magic that 
would transform himself back to human?

 
Siriusly Snapey Susan previously wrote:
>>> 2) Who WOULD have called or sent the Dementors AND have 
been in a  position to have known to do so at that moment?
  **I THINK even ESE!Lupin fan Pippin would have to agree that 
Lupin couldn't have done it, since he'd transformed into a 
werewolf already.<<<
 
Pippin, apparently quite pleased with this perfect set-up of a 
question, responded:
>> Mwahaha! You underestimate the fiendish cunning of 
ESE!Lupin. The key to the whole thing is back in ch 8, where 
Snape tells us that he has brewed an entire cauldronful of 
potion, "if you need more." 

By the time Snape reached Lupin's office with the potion and 
saw the map,  which Lupin had ever so conveniently left for him, 
ESE!Lupin had already been to Snape's office (via floo powder, 
perhaps) helped himself to the extra potion, and entered the 
willow.
 
So you see, ESE!Lupin *did* take his potion the night of the 
Shrieking Shack, and thus he had a human mind, fully capable 
of communicating with dementors.<<


SSSusan again:
What can I say?  You've covered your bases as usual. :-)  But would 
Sirius not have recognized that Lupin was mentally "with it" and just 
play-acting at attacking?  

Siriusly Snapey Susan