Dumbledore's role in Sirius' death was Re: ESE!Snape (Was loads of other stuff)
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu May 20 15:45:59 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 98940
> Neri:
> Hmmm, so do you say that if it were Lupin or Arthur, not Sirius,
tortured by LV in the DoM in that false vision, Harry wouldn't have
flown to London to rescue them?
> I think he would. Perhaps not with so much fervor, but had he
thought he is the only one who can do something about it, he
would. As Hermione accurately diagnosed, Harry has a
"people-saving thing"<
Pippin:
Hmmm...so you think what Dumbledore calls 'moral fibre' and
Hermione labels 'the saving people thing' is the same as the
power behind the door?
I don't. There is a special bond between Harry and Sirius, though
I don't expect to convince you of this if JKR couldn't. At any rate,
Dumbledore and Kreacher perceived it, though they'd seen Harry
with Arthur and Lupin too.
The one thing Voldemort understands about love is that people
are willing to compromise their principles for it. The hostage
had to be someone who would bring Harry to the Ministry *even
if* Harry knew why Voldemort was plotting to get him there.
What's complicated is that Harry didn't know as much as
Voldemort thought he did, and so Harry didn't realize there was a
moral dilemma--he'd have handed over the prophecy for Neville
if the Order hadn't shown up in time.
I agree with Neri (and Kneasy ) that Dumbledore couldn't have
anticipated that Voldemort would learn about the Harry-Sirius
bond from Kreacher. But he might well have feared that
Voldemort would learn about it from *Sirius* .
If Sirius fell into Voldemort's hands, Voldemort might find he
had captured not simply an Order member but one who could be
used against Harry himself. Sirius was the weapon.
Did he know it? I think he did.
Pippin
who salutes Kneasy for steadfastly defending EverSoEvil!Sirius
theory, but thinks he has the wrong man
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