Dumbledore's role in Sirius' death was Re: ESE!Snape (Was loads of other stuff)

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu May 20 15:45:59 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 98940

> Neri:
> Hmmm, so do you say that if it were Lupin or Arthur, not Sirius, 
 tortured by LV in the DoM in that false vision, Harry wouldn't have 
 flown to London to rescue them?

> I think he would. Perhaps not with so much fervor, but had he 
thought  he is the only one who can do something about it, he 
would. As  Hermione accurately diagnosed, Harry has a 
"people-saving thing"<

Pippin:
Hmmm...so you think what Dumbledore calls 'moral fibre' and 
Hermione labels 'the saving people thing'  is the same as the 
power behind the door? 
 

I don't. There is a special bond between Harry and Sirius, though 
I don't expect to convince you of this if JKR couldn't. At any rate, 
Dumbledore and Kreacher perceived it, though they'd seen Harry 
with Arthur and Lupin too. 

The one thing Voldemort understands about love is that people 
are willing to compromise their principles  for it.   The hostage 
had to be someone who  would bring Harry to the Ministry *even 
if*  Harry knew why Voldemort was plotting to get him there.  

What's complicated is that Harry didn't know as much as 
Voldemort thought he did, and so Harry didn't realize there was a 
moral dilemma--he'd have handed over the prophecy for Neville 
if the Order hadn't shown up in time.

I agree with Neri (and Kneasy ) that  Dumbledore couldn't have  
anticipated that Voldemort would learn about the Harry-Sirius 
bond from Kreacher. But he might well have feared that  
Voldemort  would learn about it   from *Sirius* .

  If Sirius fell into Voldemort's hands, Voldemort might find he 
had captured not simply an Order member but one who could be 
used  against Harry himself. Sirius was the weapon.

Did he know it? I think he did.

Pippin
who salutes Kneasy for steadfastly defending EverSoEvil!Sirius 
theory, but thinks he has the wrong man






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