Re: Mommy can’t protect you forever

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No: HPFGUIDX 99364

Neri wrote:
> Had Voldy done this simple test, I think he would have found that he
> can touch Harry without feeling pain even before the resurrection. 
Of
> course, he didn't bother to check it, but we have another proof,
> almost as good: Wormtail DID touch Harry. He was dragging him 
several
> feet and tying him to the gravestone. And he was not showing any 
pain
> at all.

Reed answered:

Well, I always believed that the protection Lily gave Harry when 
dying for him protected him against the one person who threatened him 
at this moment: Voldemort. It will not ward off *everyone* who 
touches Harry with bad intentions.
Quirrel was affected because, as you pointed out yourself, he shared 
a body with Voldemort, so the ancient magic was triggered by 
Voldemort's presence and destroyed the body he used at the moment 
(Quirrel's).
Wormtail, however, was simply his own malvolent self. He was (most 
likely) not even present when Lily made her sacrifice and the magic 
does not extend to him.
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Neri again:
According to your interpretation, Lily's protection is very Voldemort-
specific. Suppose for a minute that Voldy in GH, after getting rid of 
Lily, would have suddenly become cautious, and instead of AKing baby 
Harry himself, he would have summoned Lucius on the dark mark line 
and order HIM to AK Harry. Do you say that Lucius could have nailed 
Harry with no damage to himself?

Not a very smart protection.

But suppose we buy your explanation for a moment, and Lily's ancient 
magic works only against Voldemort specifically. In GoF, Voldemort 
bought himself immunity against this protection. He proved it, 
remember? He touched Harry in the graveyard without feeling pain. So 
how come in OotP he fails to possess Harry because he "can't reside 
in a body so full of a power he despises"? Why didn't Lily's ancient 
magic work against Voldemort in the graveyard, but then does work 
against him in the MoM???

I see only one logical explanation: the power that saved Harry in the 
Mom was NOT Lily's ancient magic. 

In his end-of-the-year-talk in OotP, DD first talks about Lily's 
ancient magic, explaining how he used it to protect Harry in the 
Dursleys house. Note how he manages to avoid saying that the ancient 
magic had also protected Harry tonight in the MoM. In the last part 
of his talk he speaks about the power behind the locked door. He 
tells us that this is the power that sent Harry to save Sirius 
tonight. Why would Lily's ancient magic protection send Harry to save 
Sirius? DD also tells us specifically that this power had saved Harry 
from possession in the MoM. Note how he manages to avoid saying that 
this power is Love, or that this power is Lily's ancient magic.

So why do we assume that the-power-behind-the-locked-door and Lily's 
ancient magic protection are one and the same?

I'll tell you why. Because JKR is playing her little games with our 
minds. Again.

Neri