What about the Door? - Castle Walls

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 99681

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...>
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > bboy_mn:
> > 
> > 'Castle walls'; seems like a pretty clear-cut term, but not so. 
> > 
> > There are the 'castle walls' that are not part of the castle
> > itself, but are the walls that surround the grounds like a large 
> > garden fence.


>  
> Potioncat:
> Yes, this is the area I was thinking of.  But my thought was that 
> once Black was in this area, he could get into the castle (keep?) 
> itself.  However, it sounds like it is outside these walls entirely.



bboy_mn:

But Black did get into the castle, and by logical extension, onto the
grounds. In fact, he did it three times, once to watch Harry play
Quidditch, once to slash the Fat Lady, and once to /apparently/ try to
kill Ron. So, yes, in his Dog form, he is able to get onto the grounds
and into the castle.

When you say, 'it sounds like it is outside', am I safe in assuming
'it' is the Whomping Willow? The Whomping Willow, to the best of my
analysis, is on the grounds, inside the perimeter walls, between the
castle structure and Hagrid's hut. 

Remember, that to get past the entrance gates to Hogwarts grounds, you
have to walk past the Dementors. When they exit the Whomping Willow
there is no indication that they pass the gates or the Dementors.
There is no indication that Harry must pass the Dementor when he walks
to and from Care of Magical Creatures class. Given all that I have to
conclude that the Whomping Willow is within the perimeter walls of
Hogwarts grounds but outside the protected courtyard of the castle.

As a side note: I don't think it's possible to get into the Shrieking
Shake by any means other than the tunnel. The Shack itself is sealed
to prevent people from entering by the doors and windows, and to
prevent Lupin from getting out in wolf form. My logical extension says
that it is also seal from entrance by Apparation or Floo Powder, to
prevent curious people from entering while Lupin is transformed.

Just my view.

bboy_mn