Did the Potters know the prophecy?

katevldz kb1195 at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 5 01:26:14 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 117273


In the middle of reading PoA (again), I began to wonder, did Lily and 
James know about the prophecy?  Did DD ever tell them exactly what 
Trelawney said that night?  Two passages made me wonder:

PoA US Chp 10, 204-205
"Fudge dropped his voice and proceeded in a sort of low rumble. 'Not 
many people are aware that the Potters knew You-Know-Who was after them. Dumbledore, who was of course working tirelessly against You-Know-Who, 
had a number of useful spies.  *One of them* tipped him off, and *he 
alerted James and Lily at once*. He advised them to go into hiding.'" 

So, a spy for the Order tipped off DD telling him Lily and James were 
in danger, but didn't he already know they were in danger (either them 
or the Longbottoms, or both) because he heard the prophecy about a baby 
born to parents who defied Voldemore thrice.  Did he tell them the 
contents of the prophecy or just let them believe Voldie was after them 
because they had defied him three times.  Shouldn't they have gone into 
hiding well before now, if DD had told them the contents of the prophecy?  
Maybe DD didn't tell anyone about the contents of the prophecy.  Did he 
think Trelawney was nuts at first? 

PoA US Chp 12, 240
White fog obscured his [Harry] senses...big, blurred shapes were moving 
around him...then came a new voice, a man's voice, shouting, panicking - 
"Lily, take Harry and go! It's him! Go! Run! I'll hold him off-" The 
sounds of someone stumbling from a room - a door bursting open - a cackle 
of high-pitched laughter...

This scene suggests to me that James is concerned for his wife and son, as anyone would be in that situation.  He's telling them to run - he wants to 
save both of them.  If they knew that Voldie was after Harry, perhaps they 
would have both stood up to Voldie at the same time and Lily would have 
never sacrificed for Harry in the way that she did?  Did they know Voldie 
was explicitly after Harry, not just after them?

In OotP, Dumbledore tells Harry (Chp 37, 840) that he went to see a 
Divination applicant on a cold, wet night, sixteen years ago, and that's 
when Trelawney prophesied. To me, a cold, wet night indicates winter, or 
early spring.  This would had to have been before Harry was born, Lily 
already pregnant.  But the Potters don't go into hiding until Harry is 
around 1 year old.  

I kind of just always assumed that James and Lily, and the Order for that matter, knew the contents of the prophecy because DD would have told them.  
Can anyone reference the canon as to if he did tell anyone?  or is it just 
one of those things that we don't know, but will speculate about...

Thoughts?

kate, who's new here and been lurking way too long, finally coming out of 
the woodwork to post a thought










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