Why has DD never suggested Snape thank Harry? (Was: Why has DD never suggested H

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Eggplant:

> I believe this entire thread is misnamed so I changed it. At the 
> time in question Harry had just saved the entire Wizarding world 
> (including Snape) from a terrible fate; in fact although he had 
not 
> yet reached his 13'Th birthday this was the second time he had 
done 
> so. In spite of this Snape continues to treat Harry like dirt; 
> thanking Snape under those circumstances would be condescending 
and 
> grotesque.
>


Alla:


Oh, of course I agree, but still having Harry thank Snape will be 
fun if only for the reason that than we will be absolutely sure that 
no amount of good will from Harry will change anything int heir 
relationship.


Still, right now we cannot be absolutely sure, me thinks? What if 
Snape indeed craves Harry's gratefullness?

I don't think it will be that condescending, because even though 
Harry saved WW numerous times, at least once Snape did save his life.


I do not fault Harry for that - he was eleven year old boy and 
Dumbledore added fire, but still "thank you " would be nice.

Eggplant:

> I seriously question Dumbledore's wisdom, if not sanity, in 
letting 
> a borderline psychopath like Snape teach children, especially let 
> him teach Harry, most especially let him teach Harry Occlumency. I 
> believe Harry's failure to learn the subject and the resulting 
> disaster were due to Snape's incompetent teaching methods. 

Alla:

Agreed.

Pippin:

> Eh? First year, Harry and his friends  received the House Cup for 
> their services and congratulations, via McGonagall, from Snape. 
> Second year they got special awards for services to the school, 
> which includes Snape, and fourth year Snape stood and drank in 
> honor of Harry, or so we are given to understand.   It was only 
> some of those at the Slytherin table who we're told did not.


Alla:


Sorry, Pippin, but IMO only one of the examples you gave is somehow 
counts as Snape thanking Harry.

I do not believe that House Cup and awards for special services to 
school, especially House Cup requires good feelings of all teachers 
to be attached to it.

It is quite reasonable, IMO to assume that Snape was not in 
congratulatory mood at all. Could you please give me a quote from 
PS/SS when he specifically conratulated Harry and Co for helping 
Gryffindor to receive House Cup?


I'll admit it is possible that award for special services is given 
after all teaching staff makes a decision, but it is equally 
possible that it is only up to Dumbledore, right?

In this case, of course Snape has to swallow the bitter pill, no 
matter how unhappy he is.


If he indeed drank to Harry in GoF, it counts for something, since 
nobody was coerced to stand up, but again we did not see it


Pippin:
> And then in fifth year McGonagall says, " well, I think Potter and 
> his friends ought to have fifty points apiece for alerting the 
world 
> to the return of You-Know-Who! What say you, Professor 
> Snape?"
> 
> "What?" snapped Snape, though Harry knew he had heard 
> perfectly well. "Oh--well--I suppose..."
> 
> A shade perfunctory, but it's in there. 


Alla:

It is different from what Snape usually does when Gryffindor gets 
points, but congratulations? I am not so sure.