Re: JKR’s giant mistake?

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No: HPFGUIDX 117724


Neri and Pippin snipped:
 
> > Neri:
> > I don't think they are both oversights. I think they are both 
> > examples of reasonable writing style. Harry doesn't say 
> "honestly"  that he didn't think of Voldemort BEFORE he thought 
> of the dementors.> He says honestly that he didn't think about 
> Voldemort BUT about the dementors, and the fact that he did 
> consider Voldemort for a very  short time isn't relevant,<
> 
> Pippin:
> It *is* relevant if Lupin is a legilimens, and there is other 
> evidence of that.
> 
> If you are arguing now that use of the name Voldemort is an 
> indication of how brave a character is feeling at the moment, 
> I think that is very plausible. But in that case, none of the uses 
of 
> the name need to be mistakes.
> 
> Crouch was certainly brave to preside over the trials, knowing 
> that the DE's might eventually retaliate, and indeed they did.
> Wormtail might have forgotten his fear for a moment in his 
> desperation to accuse Black. Quirrell uses the name with 
> confidence when he is thinking of himself as Voldemort's 
> inseparable ally, but reverts to "my master" when he is relating 
> how hard he finds it to serve. Crouch Jr is brave also, taking 
> great risks on behalf of his master.
> 
> In that case, the use or non-use of the name indicates nothing 
> about the loyalties of the speaker.


Snow intrigued by Pippin's last response:

I'm not sure that this is what you meant but this is how I perceived 
what you said:

As long as a deatheater is being faithful to Voldy, no ill thoughts 
at the time, that person is capable of saying Voldemort by name
but 
if that deatheater is being knowingly unfaithful
betraying, then that 
deatheater fears the name being said or saying it. 

This reminds me of Hermione's galleon that Harry accused her of 
imposing the same sort of spell on as the dark mark but more so the 
binding contract that was signed by all of Dumbledore's Army 
unknowingly to them. Was Voldy's contract with his deatheaters, when 
they received the dark mark, somewhat similar? If the deatheater was 
not faithful they could not say his name without being known to Voldy 
as a betrayer? 

We don't know the origin of why all people fear to say Voldy's name 
or why Tom Riddle perceived it to be so (The name people would one 
day fear to speak) but if it began with the betrayal and defiance of 
a deatheater who had just said the name Voldemort and was struck down

I'm sure that `word' would have been passed around. 

Imagine the townspeople talking 
"The moment Regulus said the name of 
Voldemort, he was struck down without notice" "It must be the name 
Voldemort, don't say it, pass it on
" I use Regulus as an example 
because Sirius announced to Harry that his brother tried to back out 
and there is no turning in resignation to Voldemort. 

So if you are not a deatheater
 no dark mark, no contract, no 
problem...if you are a deatheater or had been, by way of the mark, 
don't say it (Voldy's name) unless you are very skilled in Occlumency 
or not betraying the master
Voldemort. 

Snow