Prophecies and fate; writing what you don't believe (was:The Second Prophecy)

[hickengruendler]

No: HPFGUIDX 118059


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
 
> Alla:
> 
> 
> Do you know what I think? I said it before, so you probably do. I 
> don't believe that prophecy will come out as Dumbledore expects.
> 
> I think the solution will be different and unexpected. I do think 
> that the prohecy itsel was thrown at us as the biggest "red 
> herring", partially ebcause this literary device is so overused, 
IMO.
> 

Hickengruendler:

That is what I think, too, for two reasons. The first reason is, that 
she said she worded the prophecy very carefully, which to me highly 
suggests that the meaning is not quite as obvious as it wseems to be. 
But there's also a clear hint in the book, IMO. Firenze says in his 
lesson basically, that the abilities of the humans to read the future 
are limited and that they often interprete the signs wrongly. I do 
not think it's by accident that JKR put this in the book, which in 
his end had a prophecy whose content seemed to be a bit obvious (at 
least for us readers. I disagree with the fans who think, that Harry 
shouldn't be surprised).

However, I must admit that I don't really know which part of the 
prophecy is the one whose interpretation will turn out to be wrong. 
Trelawney clearly said, that one has to kill the other in the end, 
therefore I don't really see any loophole in this part of the 
prophecy.

Of course there's still Neville, for whose part in the prophecy I see 
two possible solutions (except for the fact, that Voldemort chose his 
enemy). Either he really is the chosen one, and Harry's scar is not 
the mark Trelawney meant, but instead it is Neville who has the 
important mark, which might be a psychological one. This fits with 
Madam Pomfrey's statement, that thoughts can leave deeper scard than 
everything else.

Or Neville is just a red-herring, and JKR put him in obvious sight, 
because she knew (or hoped) that the fans would discuss his part and 
therefore ignore the really important part of the prophecy.

Hickengruendler