Prophecies and fate; Trelawney

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 17 08:53:39 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 118064


> 
> Hickengruendler:
> The first reason is, that 
> she said she worded the prophecy very carefully, which to me highly 
> suggests that the meaning is not quite as obvious as it wseems to 
be. 
> But there's also a clear hint in the book, IMO. Firenze says in his 
> lesson basically, that the abilities of the humans to read the 
future 
> are limited and that they often interprete the signs wrongly. I do 
> not think it's by accident that JKR put this in the book, which in 
> his end had a prophecy whose content seemed to be a bit obvious (at 
> least for us readers. I disagree with the fans who think, that 
Harry 
> shouldn't be surprised).
> 
> However, I must admit that I don't really know which part of the 
> prophecy is the one whose interpretation will turn out to be wrong. 
> Trelawney clearly said, that one has to kill the other in the end, 
> therefore I don't really see any loophole in this part of the 
> prophecy.

Finwitch:

All this business with Fate- hmm-mm. You know, Fate may be something 
that's intended, a way things 'should' be going, but nothing's to say 
it can't go wrong.

And the prophecy, (much like any prediction of a true Seer, I think) 
is there - and every WORD of it is true, but we mustn't draw 
conclucions, for it is can be as misleading as Robert Jordan's Aes 
Sedai can be.

As for that, Trelawney might well be a Seer, but: Her *opinions* 
(such as Harry born in mid-winter, or the 13 at the table) don't 
count as a prediction - but um - first to leave is the first to die - 
doesn't the language use the word 'leave' as a metaphor for death?

I wonder though, maybe James Potter *was* born in mid-winter?

Finwitch







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