The Second Prophecy plus a correction

[chrusotoxos]

No: HPFGUIDX 118157


Ok, ok, no need to get nasty...I mean, we're adults discussing a 
children book, aren't we pathetic enough without biting our heads off? ;))

Sorry if I seemed so, anyway.

So, back to Sirius. I ready your posts, Kneasy, and I'm not 
convinced. But let me clarify something first: I don't like him all that lot! 
Snape is defintely my favourite character, as it's yours, I guess.

You wrote:
"What does 'sexy beast' imply? Byronic good looks, unreliable as
hell and invariably trouble. That sort always let you down; come 
on, admit it, they're bastards. But you keep making excuses for them."
 
And you're totally right. We've seen it in the pensieve: Sirius was 
arrogant, and handsome, and self-inflated - at 15. Life could have 
changed him, made him more mature - but he didn't have any life, Sirius at 
33 is Sirius at 17 plus 12 years of hard prison.
 
And you wrote:
"But there are those that think that Sirius would be a most suitable
guardian for Harry, even though:
He's spent 12 years in Azkaban and is on the run
He has no experience with children
He has no idea of Harry's emotional or physical needs
He is rash, disruptive, argumentative, a potential murderer (twice 
plus the 'Prank'), compulsive, naive, and has totally unrealistic
expectations of Harry.
Would you hand a child over to such a person? No - and neither will 
DD.
He's not to be trusted with the care of someone as critical to DD's
plan as Harry is."

 Totally right again, even if I hate taking sides with a mother hen 
such as Molly Weasley...:)

But all this doesn't mean that he's a DE or worse! I mean, very 
often handsome bastards are mean to women they want to sleep with, not 
with the whole world! I imagine you have yourself some marvellous 
friends/brothers/cousins/ex-guys who are very nice persons...except 
to women! So if Sirius did trick some flies into his web, that doesn't 
mean that he can not be trustworthy on giving his life for the order.

 I mean, Snape is the perfect exemple of this: he really is a 
horrible person, but I'm with Dumbledore: I trust him. Maybe he's not 
nice to the kids, but he's working to protect them.
 
As for your other objections, here is my answer:

About Sirius' flight from Azkaban, yeah, that's strange. But there 
could be something JKR is not telling us. I mean, maybe normally they 
had protection against animagi, but that day something went wrong 
without Sirius knowing. There is no prison from which you can't 
escape.
 
 About the trial, well, we were told that Crouch had stopped doing 
trials. That's a very horrible thing, but it's very common, especially 
in war time, look at real history...no need to imagine a conspiracy 
behind it.
 
About the dementors: they were not going for Harry in PoA! They 
need to feed, they were going for a large crowd of students (and 
Harry fell down because of his personal weakness to them - totally 
justified) and then for Sirius. They ignored Snape and Hermione and 
went to Harry because he was trying to protect Sirius. Fudge was 
trying to save him, not to kill him! I mean, same thing: Fudge is 
playing his own political game, doesn't mean he wants Harry dead! He 
could support Lucius because he doesn't realize how dangerous he is. 
Sometimes you and a horrible guy think alike about a subject (ie, 
Dumdledore is too old and arrogant), and Fudge didn't realize how 
dangerous it was to make an alliance on this base.

 About the dragons: Sirius thought about the conjunctivitis curse, 
one of the most effective on a dragon. Moody came up with the broom 
theory, but he has been working months on it!

About the end of GoF: would you trust such an important message to 
floo or owls, when both of them can be intercepted? and it was also a 
good occasion to give something useful to do to Sirius, and to force 
him to live in a house for a change, to have some friends again.
 
About OotP: Come on! Voldie doesn't care about Harry living or dying, 
and he doesn't now that he has to kill him himself. If Sirius was 
working for him, how come he didn't put Harry in danger? Yes, he has 
some teenager reactions, and I find this very sad and very believable. 
But I don't think Dumbledore can afford to have a good fighter killed.

Maybe Sirius had to die so that Harry wouldn't fear death anymore 
(how worse  it is to outlive a loved one? And Voldie can't know this, 
since he doesn't  love anyone), as someone said, but I also think that 
Sirius couldn't survive. He's one of these characters who have been 
away in the dark too long, and cannot fit in the world again. Look at 
Frodo Baggins, at someone like Rimbaud, or at all these soldiers coming 
back from Vietnam and Iraq who shoot  themselves or their relatives...
darkness changes you. And that's also Snape's  problem...we'll see...
 
Would like to hear your feedback, but please, if you want to hate Sirius, 
do so for something he actually is, not because he looks like someone 
who offended you...or am I mistaken?

Hugs
 Chrusotoxos