Harry mastering his emotions in HPB (was: Plot in OotP)
cubfanbudwoman
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Fri Nov 19 19:39:18 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 118215
SSSusan wrote:
> > This is one of the reasons I've proposed before [and taken
> > some grief for doing so, I might add :-)] that Harry will manage
> > to find a way to work w/ Snape, even if Snape keeps on being a
> > prick. I think JKR will show us a Harry who comes to be ready
> > to really focus on ending VoldyWarII.
Potioncat:
> I am shocked at you, SSSusan! How could you say "...if Snape keeps
> on being a prick...." You should have said, "...if Professor Snape
> keeps on being a prick..."
SSSusan again:
HAHAHAHA! Good one, 'cat!! ;-)
Lupinlore:
> snip
> > Still, having Severus be nothing more than an unchanging
> > obstacle, a lesson in working with difficult people, would IMO be
> > a huge cop out on JKR's part. Worse, turning Harry into a turn-
> > the-other cheek martyr, especially if there is also an emphasis
> > on how both Harry and Voldy came from similar childhoods but made
> > different choices, would risk turning the whole story into a
> > moral allegory approaching some of C.S. Lewis' work.
> snip> >
> > I grant you all of this is *a* way to bring these issues to a
> > head and a close. But if JKR goes this route it would strike me
> > as -- and I know this is a strong word but it really does
> > describe how I would feel -- insipid.
Potioncat:
> Snape has said Harry has to control his emotions.
> McGonagall has said Harry has to control his emotions.
> JKR has said Harry has to control his emotions.
> I'm getting the idea that Harry has to control his emotions. <snip>
> So unless he's going to shove Professor Snape into a vanishing
> cabinet, he's going to have to deal with him. I don't see him using
> the same level of maturation as an adult, but teens have to put up
> with unreasonable adults all the time. It can be done with style
> and it doesn't have to be insipid.
SSSusan:
Yup. I think we're getting that message about controlling emotions
loud & clear...and so I think we're going to see it in HBP, even if
not right away. We don't know if there'll be an Umbridge-type
character or an encounter with Voldy or just what it is which will
require him to control those emotions; we don't even know whether
Harry will continue to have class w/ Snape since we don't know his
Potions OWL result yet. So it *may* be that controlling his emotions
will involve Snape, or it may be that it won't. JKR could have meant
this in context of Harry's just really learning to focus on learning,
strategizing, being able to defend himself... in essence, on
preparing himself for Voldy.
So the conflict between him & Snape could continue to be a kind of
sidelight *or* it could, for some reason, take center stage. If it
**matters** towards his being able to defeat Voldy, though, I'm still
banking on Harry managing to change. And *hoping* for at least
small, grudging change on Snape's part, though not counting on it.
SSSusan:
> > [Breathing deeply -- Lupinlore said *it* would be insipid, not
> > that *you* are insipid....]
Potioncat:
> And I nominate SSSusan to be the one to teach Harry how to control
> his emotions.
SSSusan again:
Uh...not a good idea. I can be a real hothead. BUT I think I
would've done a damn sight better on Occlumency lessons w/ Harry than
*Professor* Prick. ;-)
Siriusly Snapey Susan, who, after viewing photos of the PoA launch
party in London, wants to take some scissors to some of these young
men's hair! [Check it out:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4020000/newsid_4024300/402435
1.stm ;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4020000/newsid_4024300/402435
1.stm ; http://www.hpana.com/imageviewer.cfm?nid=18404&f=dan-
alfonso.jpg ]
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