CHAPTER DISCUSSION: ch. 32 "Out of the Fire"

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 118338



> Discussion Questions:
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> Note:  I have listed a few possibilities with each question.  
These 
> are only a springboard for your mind.  Feel free to add your own 
> ideas.  I'm anxious to hear them!
> 
> Ginny has been noticed lying easily before.  (Telling her mother 
that  Crookshanks had been playing with Dungbombs when it 
was she using  them.)  In this chapter, she comes up with the 
Garroting Gas lie  quickly, but says it was F&G's idea.  Later, she 
is very convincing  when telling the other students about the Gas.
> 
> 1)  Do you think that F&G really intended to use what seems to 
be a  fatal substance for a prank?  Or was Ginny lying about that 
too?<

Pippin:
I think they might have planned a similar ruse in order to clear a 
corridor.

> 4)  At the time Harry talked to Kreacher, Sirius is tending 
Buckbeak,  whom Kreacher has injured.  Kreacher tells Harry 
that Sirius has gone out.  After Harry specifically asks about the 
D of M, Kreacher  gleefully tells him that Sirius will not return.  
What do you think  Kreacher's role is in the set-up, and how did 
he know what he would  be required to do?  (To explain:  Did LV 
know that Harry would check  out #12?  Did he tell Kreacher what 
info to give and what to  withhold?  Is Kreacher reporting back to 
LV?  And by LV, I mean all  his evil henchpersons as well.)<

What about Professor Tofty as ESE? His name sounds 
suspiciously like toffee, as in Fudge (though "toft" is an old word 
meaning hillock). Marchbanks is proctoring the exam, but when 
Harry comes to it's Tofty that's looking after him and tells him to 
go to bed instead of seeing that he gets to the hospital wing. 
Professor Tofty was also suspiciously interested in Harry's 
patronus. Wanted to see it for himself.

Could Tofty also be responsible for the turn for the worse that 
took McGonagall to St. Mungo's? And could he also have notified 
LV that Harry had passed out? 

Suppose Tofty communicated by some secret means with 
Voldemort's agent at GP (not Kreacher, who might be forced to 
talk by Sirius).  The agent signalled Kreacher to injure Buckbeak. 
Tofty also sent Filch  to tell Umbridge that Peeves was blacking 
the eyepieces of the telescopes, hoping to decoy her to the top of 
the astronomy tower, so that Harry would have a clear shot at the 
fireplace. But this plan was nearly undone by Ron's lie about 
Peeves smashing up the transfiguration department. 

Pippin
who thinks it highly unlikely that Harry would have believed 
Snape, no matter what Snape said. If Harry wouldn't even believe 
Hermione,no way would he have believed Snape.