Two Wormtails was Re: Plot in OotP (wand confusion)

[Renee]

No: HPFGUIDX 118400


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> 
> >Neri:  
> > A nice story, but still, you suggest this solution without a 
riddle.
>  Nowhere in the book the mystery is presented (or even hinted, 
> IIRC) who Wormtail really is.<
> 
> Pippin:
> 
> Erm,  of course there's a mystery about who Wormtail really is.
> ----
> "You don't think it more likely he got it *directly from the 
> manufacturers*?" [emphasis JKR's].
> 
> Harry didn't understand what Snape was talking about. Nor, 
> apparently, did Lupin.
> 
> "You mean, by Mr. Wormtail or one of these people?" he said.
> --PoA ch 14
> 
> Wormtail is identified  later in the book when Lupin tells about 
> the Animagi. But the mystery which is not solved, and has been 
> asked many times on this list, is "What did Snape know about 
> the 'manufacturers' that made him question Lupin?"

Renee:
Who Wormtail is and what exactly Snape knows are two different 
mysteries. As you say, the first one is solved later in the books. 
On the later, we can only speculate but it doesn't change the fact 
that the first one is solved. (Pulling Occam's Razor again.) 

> Renee:
> >Yes, that was the missing piece of information. But I'm afraid it 
> doesn't sound very convincing to me. Dumbledore knows the spy 
> is someone close to the Potters, yet it never occurs to him to 
> mention the name Wormtail to James, just in case? He doesn't 
> even mention it when James declines his offer to become Secret 
> Keeper? <
> 
> Pippin:
> Dumbledore would have been extremely careful about sharing 
> information with James if he believed James was trusting the 
> wrong people. Dumbledore suspected Sirius, but James trusted 
> Sirius and suspected Lupin. Either of them could have used the 
> name Wormtail. Nobody suspected Pettigrew, name or no 
> name. 
> 

Renee:
?? I don't see what harm it could do to tell James the spy went 
under the name Wormtail. So he would have told Sirius. What did DD 
think Sirius could do with this information? And if DD suspected 
Sirius *before* Halloween 1981 (is this canon?) he was criminally 
irresponsible anyway, to allow him to be the Secret Keeper. 
And are you saying James & Sirius wouldn't have suspected Peter if 
they'd been confronted with the name Wormtail? 

Renee