Lupin Equivocating was Two Wormtails

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Nov 23 20:50:14 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 118432


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nrenka" 
<nrenka at y...> wrote:

> 
> The second part of your argument is something of a slippery 
slope.   It's true that Lupin is equivocating.  However, by the end 
of the  book, we have a remarkably clear context for WHY he is 
equivocating,  and that he is certainly not the only one doing so 
throughout the  book.<

Pippin:
 Can you expand on that a little? Lupin *says* he was holding 
back what he knew about Sirius being an Animagus because  
he didn't want to expose his own earlier misdeeds and lose 
Dumbledore's trust.  Therefore, he convinced himself that Sirius 
being an Animagus had nothing to do with how he was getting 
into the school.

All well and good, but when it's pointed out that this amounted to 
putting Harry's life at risk from a terrorist murderer in order to 
save his own reputation, Lupin's defenders inevitably counter 
that he must actually have believed Sirius innocent all along. 
There's no canon for that, but it's a possible interpretation. 

But it makes the context muddy again. And it  still doesn't explain 
anything about why Lupin doesn't tell the truth about the map, or 
at least turn it in to Dumbledore. 

BTW, do we have any examples of a character using an 
equivocal style who doesn't ever equivocate?

Nora:

  It's a big step from the assertion "Lupin is equivocating in 
 PoA" to the statement that "Anything Lupin says that MIGHT be 
 equivocal IS".  ESE!Lupin, as I've been tracing it, requires 
everything Lupin both says and does to be hiding a seekrit 
agenda.   None of Lupin's actions are what they seem, in this 
theory.  He's  killed more people than anyone else in the series. 
:)

Pippin:
There's no point in going to such extremes of misdirection in 
order to hide a minor crime or two. If the reader is ever to find 
ESE!Lupin believable, there have to be clues in every scene, just 
as there are with Fake!Moody, Tom Riddle, or Quirrell. (But not, 
as you will note, with Scabbers, who sometimes behaves quite 
innocently. )

Nora:

> Dumbledore has been incompletely truthful with us.  Is he 
hiding  something behind every corner?  <

Pippin:
Dumbledore's concealments are aimed squarely at defeating 
Voldemort and protecting Harry. Hermione has those motives, 
plus a taste for revenge that she will eventually, IMO, confront 
and defeat. 

Lupin, I think, is a character who failed that test, but we'll see.
By his own admission, what he cared about in PoA was saving 
his own skin first. That can't be good.

Pippin







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