Two Wormtails was Re: Plot in OotP (wand confusion)

[Renee]

No: HPFGUIDX 118477


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Lynx412 at A... wrote:
> In a message dated 11/23/2004 5:33:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> R.Vink2 at c... writes:
> 
> > Renee:
> > ?? I don't see what harm it could do to tell James the spy went 
> > under the name Wormtail. So he would have told Sirius. What did 
DD 
> > think Sirius could do with this information? And if DD suspected 
> > Sirius *before* Halloween 1981 (is this canon?) he was 
criminally 
> > irresponsible anyway, to allow him to be the Secret Keeper. 
> > And are you saying James &Sirius wouldn't have suspected Peter 
if 
> > they'd been confronted with the name Wormtail? 
> 
>        Ah, but there's the rub. Just who *did* know the spy went 
under the 
> name of Wormtail? I don't recall any canon that states that anyone 
did. There is 
> canon that the DEs hid their identities, even from each other. All 
that was 
> known at the time was that the informant was 'someone close to the 
Potters'. 
> Dumbledore suspected one of their coterie, but had no idea who. If 
he had a 
> name, even a nickname, he'd have found out. The man's a 
Legillimens, people. All 
> he'd have had to do was mention the name and wait for the answer 
in their 
> minds.
 
<snip>

Renee:
If you look at message #118357, you'll see that's preciesely the 
point I'm making there. 
My comment was a reaction to Pippin's theory that Voldemort "used 
the code name Wormtail for his spy Lupin in Voldemort War One, in 
order to taunt James and mislead Dumbledore." (Pippin's message 
118343) and that "Voldemort assumed that the name "Wormtail" would 
get back to James, but Dumbledore kept it to himself." (Pippin's 
message 118351.)
In fact, I'm in complete agreement with you; I was just arguing that 
*if* Dumbledore would have known the name of the spy was Wormtail, 
he wouldn't have sat back and done nothing.

Renee
who begins to suspect it's risky to even briefly adopt Pippin's 
theories, if only for the sake of arguing against them :)