bullies? twins, padfoot and prongs

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 28 18:23:53 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 118712


> Carol responds:
>The statement that James always hated the Dark Arts comes from 
Sirius,twenty years after the Pensieve incident. As I've said 
before, he may be *orojecting* his own feelings, or James's *later* 
feelings, onto James at this time. We don't hear James himself 
speaking on the subject.

Alla:

I think Nora made a marvelous argument on why "it does not have to 
be personal for James in order for him to hate Dark Arts".


Carol:
 He doesn't strike me as a gurilla in the war against Voldemort or 
any kind of hero at this point. It took, IMO, something drastic--
perhaps the murder of his parents by DEs--to transform Pensieve 
James into the James of Godric's Hollow.


Alla:

We differ on this one.


Carol:
 
> It appears that you're taking Sirius's statement about James's 
hatred of the Dark Arts at face value. I think that Sirius is not a 
reliable source of information on the subject. He's too close to 
James, after twelve years in Azkaban brooding on his wrongs and only 
two years to partially recover in the horrible Black mansion, to be 
an objective witness. IMO, we need confirmation from a more reliable 
source in order to regard that statement as a canonical description 
of James's views when he was fifteen.



Alla:

Yes, I do. I said that earlier - we DON'T KNOW how objective witness 
ANY of the characters is at this point, except Voldemort,w ho had 
been caught lying and Dumbledore, who we KNOW from JKR withholds 
information.

IF I will doubt ANY character's testimony, I will not be able to 
support ANY of my arguments with canon's testimony.

Untill Sirius is PROVEN to be a liar, I will take his testimony 
seriously, I see no reason not to.

I even take his testimony about Snape to be true, but I understand 
why others may not want to, but not to take his words about James as 
truthful? I see absolutely no reason why.










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