bullies? twins, padfoot and prongs
dumbledore11214
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Sun Nov 28 18:23:53 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 118712
> Carol responds:
>The statement that James always hated the Dark Arts comes from
Sirius,twenty years after the Pensieve incident. As I've said
before, he may be *orojecting* his own feelings, or James's *later*
feelings, onto James at this time. We don't hear James himself
speaking on the subject.
Alla:
I think Nora made a marvelous argument on why "it does not have to
be personal for James in order for him to hate Dark Arts".
Carol:
He doesn't strike me as a gurilla in the war against Voldemort or
any kind of hero at this point. It took, IMO, something drastic--
perhaps the murder of his parents by DEs--to transform Pensieve
James into the James of Godric's Hollow.
Alla:
We differ on this one.
Carol:
> It appears that you're taking Sirius's statement about James's
hatred of the Dark Arts at face value. I think that Sirius is not a
reliable source of information on the subject. He's too close to
James, after twelve years in Azkaban brooding on his wrongs and only
two years to partially recover in the horrible Black mansion, to be
an objective witness. IMO, we need confirmation from a more reliable
source in order to regard that statement as a canonical description
of James's views when he was fifteen.
Alla:
Yes, I do. I said that earlier - we DON'T KNOW how objective witness
ANY of the characters is at this point, except Voldemort,w ho had
been caught lying and Dumbledore, who we KNOW from JKR withholds
information.
IF I will doubt ANY character's testimony, I will not be able to
support ANY of my arguments with canon's testimony.
Untill Sirius is PROVEN to be a liar, I will take his testimony
seriously, I see no reason not to.
I even take his testimony about Snape to be true, but I understand
why others may not want to, but not to take his words about James as
truthful? I see absolutely no reason why.
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