Harry learning from Snape (was: stopper death)
dzeytoun
dzeytoun at cox.net
Sat Oct 2 18:52:24 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114462
> Pippin:
> >
> > As for the wisdom of Dumbledore's tolerating people who hold
> > moral convictions other than his own, IMO, freedom of thought is
> > far more valuable than efficiency or peace. It is always easy
to
> > find people who will mindlessly agree in return for not having to
> > take the responsibility themselves.
> >
> > But if the boss surrounds himself with such people then there
> > will be no one to tell him when he is wrong. I think Dumbledore
> > knows that and Harry is learning it--he'd have been far better
off
> if
> > he hadn't cowed Hermione into silence at the end of OOP.
> >
>
>
>
> Alla:
>
> Well, that I don't agree with. That is one of the problem with
> Dumbledore character that JKR makes him juggle so many things- He
> is a leader of anti-Voldemort resistance and Headmaster, etc.
>
> As Headmaster, IMO, he has on obligation to the children, who are
> placed under his care and if for the well- being of these children,
> Snape's freedom of thought (which manifests itself in his
disgusting
> attitude toward Harry and Neville- Snape is a fictional character,
> so I think I can call his attitude as I see it :o)) should be
> sacrificed, so be it.
>
> But I concede that the reason why Dumbledore does not tell Snape to
> stop it could totally change the picture as I see it.
>
> I also don't think, Pippin that "potterverse" moral standards are
so
> different from others, but those discussions had been held so many
> times that i don't want to go in depth right now.
>
> Yes, they are at war, yes wisarding children can handle more
> than "muggle" ones, but how much more it is very unclear, IMO.
>
> Yes, one should have people around, who can tell him when they are
> wrong, but Hermione's "saving people thing" was not the wisest
cause
> of action, IMO
Exactly. The question is NOT allowing different opinions. The
question is about sitting back while a bully emotionally abuses
students. That is UTTERLY indefensible and smacks of spinelessness.
Dzeytoun
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