DD letting Snape abuse students (Re: Harry learning from Snape)
dzeytoun
dzeytoun at cox.net
Sun Oct 3 14:56:39 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114563
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dungrollin"
<spotthedungbeetle at h...> wrote:
>
> phoenixgod2000 wrote:
>
> > Sometimes I do not understand the lengths that people go to in
> > order to forgive Snape for his actions.
>
> Dungrollin:
> It's because he's fictional. We'd be far more circumspect about it
> if he might *really* hurt someone. We're reading about him, not
> having to meet him - and as a reader one can be a bit more daring
in
> one's reactions and sympathies towards characters than one can in
> real life. We also recognise that we're only human, and damn -
> wouldn't these books be boring if all the characters were
> perfect? We try to forgive others' mistakes that we can imagine
> ourselves making.
>
> So you're reading these books and you say 'Oh, that Sirius is
> *great*, I *like* him!' Then a couple of things about his
> recklessness come out, so you say 'well - I'm sure it comes from
> noble intentions'. Or there are those attracted to the idea of a
> kind and wise old mentor, and so when *his* actions don't seem to
be
> perfect they come up with reasons why he's in a difficult
> position, and can't be expected to be flawless.
>
> Then, of course, there are a number of us that occasionally get
> exasperated with life. With other people. With politics, with
> television, with absurd fashions, with unworkable technology, with
> inane advertisments, with stroppy teenagers, with people who don't
> understand simple ideas conveyed in simple words...
>
> Occasionally we have bad days, you see. And we become grumpy and
> sarcastic, and annoying. But on *really* bad days we start to
> *revel* in it. We wish that we didn't even bother having a good
> time when we weren't having a bad day. We wish we could greet
> everything in life with sarcasm or indifference - good mood or bad
> mood is fine, it's all the jumping about between them that's a
> pain. It'd be much easier just to become a sarcastic... cynical...
> bastards. So we've kind of got some respect for Snape for having
> the guts to do what we would love to do - the difficulty for us is
> that we're capable of cheering up. Snape isn't.
>
> None of us would like Snape if we met him, we'd be treated with
> scorn and sarcasm from the second he opened his mouth. I'd hate to
> meet Snape - because he wouldn't like me; he doesn't like anyone.
>
> Dungrollin
> By *we* I don't mean *all* Snape apologists, just some of us.
Yes, we are dealing in archetypes here, aren't we? I think you are
onto something very important, Dungrollin.
Dzeytoun
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