Harry learning from Snape (was: stopper death)

[dzeytoun]

No: HPFGUIDX 114490


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Magda Grantwich 
<mgrantwich at y...> wrote:
> dzeytoun wrote:
> >  Justice is MUCH more important than efficiency or peace.<
> 
> 
> Well, there's "justice" and then there's "pig-headed obstinancy". 
> Harry can stand in one spot banging his head against the wall that's
> Snape until hell freezes over or Harry can wise up and out-smart him
> so that Snape has to recognize that he was wrong about Harry in the
> first place.  

The problem is that I seriously doubt Snape will EVER recognize 
that.  He simply has too much invested, emotionally, in his view of 
Harry to rethink it because Harry is "respectful" or whatever.  I'm 
sure he would just say "That blasted Potter is obviously up to 
something and thinks he can throw me off the scent."  If Harry wants 
to achieve a new relationship with Severus, I really  don't think it 
can be on the basis on mutual respect, largely because I don't think 
Snape is *capable*, psychologically speaking, of respecting Harry.  

To respect Harry would mean, on some deep level, that Snape would 
have to come to some sort of peace with his past and the specter of 
the Marauders and whatever else was between him and James.  If he 
*could* do that I suppose he would, because he would be able to 
release his own pain.  But all the evidence we have is that he just 
simply cannot.  And indeed, Dumbledore seems to have reached this 
conclusion as well with his "Some wounds run too deep for the 
healing" remark.



> It's not a matter of what a teacher should do or what is fair or 
just
> at this point - there's an evil overlord who keeps trying to kill
> Harry and his friends and I think that adjusting his attitude so 
that
> he can get the most out of the people who are his allies would be a
> really good strategic move until the big issue is dealt with.

Sigh.  But is a wizarding world where Snape is allowed to do whatever 
he pleases really worth saving?  That's a rhetorical question, but 
you have to admit that neither Dumbledore nor the Order has done very 
well in giving Harry appropriate emotional support.

Harry is fifteen years old.  People don't seem able to forgive him 
for that.  He's supposed to act, I suppose, as if he's thirty-six?  
Then I suppose he would have license to act like Snape?

Harry should mature and use the resources around him and get his 
priorities straight?  Give me a break!  He's already decided that 
Snape is to blame for the death of Sirius, and JKR went to a great 
deal of trouble to set up that "I'll never forgive him" scene at the 
end of OOTP.  People are waiting to see respect between Snape and 
Harry?  Lotsa luck.  Authors don't use valuable space at the end of a 
book to introduce plot themes that will be settled easily or 
quickly.  I think Harry *may* respect Snape at some point in Book 
VII, after Snape is killed trying to save Harry or some such.  Until 
then... lotsa luck.

Dzeytoun
	
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