[HPforGrownups] Re: Dark? Sirius (was: what were Malfoys) (longish)
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griffin782002 at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 4 16:25:55 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114707
Hannah <hannahmarder at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hannah: I promised I'd answer this post, so here goes. I'm neither
a rabid Sirius-phile or Sirius-phobe. He's an interesting
character, rather as Snape is, because his motivation isn't always
clear, his past is shady, and his actions can be interpreted in
several ways.
I agree there is more to Sirius than meets the eye. Something made
DD mistrust him even before GH, and apparently not even question his
guilt afterwards. Something also made Lupin, one of his best
friends, believe he was a spy before and after GH. There's
the 'prank' and the issue of why he was never expelled. There's
Snape's apparent conviction that Sirius was guilty of betraying the
Potters.
I can see that Sirius may have been a DE who left. It's not very
likely, but I don't think it's impossible. I am sure he wasn't
working for them again during OotP though. If he was, he'd have
taken Snape's advice and not rushed off to rescue Harry, and Bella
wouldn't have killed him, since he would have been very useful as a
spy. I also believe he really did care about Harry, even if he
wasn't a very good influence on him.
I don't think the DoM plot was set up to lure him out of hiding and
kill him. There would surely have been easier ways to get him of
hiding (a fake 'help me Sirius' message from Harry, for example).
The DoM mission was about getting the prophecy, and maybe destroying
Harry. Sirius only got there by accident. You could argue that ESE!
Snape set him up, but even then it seems very complicated and risky,
especially as a whole load of other Order members including DD were
alerted in the process.
I agree Sirius is not a wonderful misunderstood saint. Future books
will likely reveal more of his unsavoury past exploits. But as he
himself said; 'The world is not divided in good people and Death
Eaters.'
Hannah
Griffin782002 now:
First I must say that I am not a Sirius-phile and certainly not a Sirius-phobe. One of the reason I can't consider him dead is the fact that Harry was upset in the of OotP.
About this theory that he died because he was a D.E. sounds to me very nasty. Under this circumstances, Harry should have left Sirius and Lupin to kill Peter. And D.D. praises Harry for not letting them kill him. To me his words sound too similar with Gandalf''s words when Frodo said that he wished Frodo had killed Gollum.
And finally as you said the world is divided into good people and D.E., but no good person is perfect.
Griffin782002 who apologise if her last post was a bit aggressive
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