Dark? Sirius / Stubby Bored Man?
mhbobbin
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Tue Oct 5 00:01:49 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114759
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Hannah" <hannahmarder at y...>
wrote:
>
> > > Mac wrote:
> PoA introduces Sirius - an extremely ambiguous character but who
we are supposed to love, like Harry (and James).
snip
> So why must Sirius have an entire book (PoA) and then be so
> suppressed and even 'necessarily' killed? Where does it fit?
> >
> > Lots of characters in the books and lots of HPfGU posters read
> > Sirius very differently than I had always done, namely they see
> him dark: I saw him misunderstood and good: He's James' best mate,
> > Harry's godfather, even DD trusts him (or does he?) - flawed,
> > reckless, but esentially good.
> >
> > snip snip> he's *always* got a 'reasonable' explanation - even
comes across as persecuted), he breaks rules, is a loose canon,
instigates terrible (if you think about it) and risky behaviour by
the Marauders (how did DD possibly *not* know?) and, one way or
another, knew enough about the Potter's demise to be on the spot
straight after it happened (if only that late). Why does JKR say
that in early drafts of GH a DE met Sirius there? Sirius is not
stupid enough to be duped, so why is he associating with DE's?
Especially at GH.
> >
> Hannah: snip snip He's an interesting character, rather as Snape
is, because his motivation isn't always clear, his past is shady,
and his actions can be interpreted in several ways.
>
I agree there is more to Sirius than meets the eye. Something made
DD mistrust him even before GH, and apparently not even question his
guilt afterwards. Something also made Lupin, one of his best
friends, believe he was a spy before and after GH. There's
the 'prank' and the issue of why he was never expelled. There's
Snape's apparent conviction that Sirius was guilty of betraying the
Potters.
> snip snip snip Future books will likely reveal more of his
unsavoury past exploits. But as he himself said; 'The world is not
divided in good people and Death Eaters.'
mhbobbin:
Suddenly, the name Stubby Boardman lept into my head. Yes, it
seemed like a joke when we all read about him in The Quibbler. The
idea of Sirius as some sort of Lounge Lizard. (Chapter 10 ootp)
Boardman. Bored Man. I don't mean the whole story as reported in The
Quibbler is legitimate. But what would have prevented Sirius from
sneaking out of Grim Old Place to sing with The Hobgoblins. He was,
after all, a Bored Man. And this particularly far-fetched article
is mentioned twice. First, when Kingsley gives the paper to Arthur
thinking Sirius would find it interesting. Second, when Harry picks
up Luna's magazine.
What to go on? Not much. The whiff of whiskey a couple of times.
What has to be long stretches of time alone in Grim Old Place,
unaccounted for. And Sirius' reckless personality. Maybe the point
of the article is only to hint at Sirius' recklessness and not to be
taken literally.
This article is mentioned in the same chapter as Sirius accompanying
Harry to the Train, and being seen by Lucius. And Harry speculates
that this also meant that Lucius knew that The Weasleys, Hermione
Tonks, Lupin and Mad Eye Moody, as well as Harry, knew where Sirius
was. Recklessness that costs Sirius dearly as he then must always be
confined to headquarters. And that is only an episode Harry saw.
Did Sirius endanger the Order in other ways? Is this why he HAD to
be put out of the way, or killed, for awhile. Not to mention all the
Double-AGent, DE, spy theories.
(Please forgive me and do not turn me into a newt if this has been
discussed recently. )
mhbobbin--
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