Dark? Sirius / Stubby Bored Man?

mhbobbin mhbobbin at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 5 00:01:49 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 114759


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Hannah" <hannahmarder at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> > > Mac wrote: 
>  PoA introduces Sirius - an extremely ambiguous character but who 
we  are supposed to love, like Harry (and James).
snip
> So why must Sirius have an entire book (PoA) and then be so 
> suppressed and even 'necessarily' killed? Where does it fit? 
> > 
> > Lots of characters in the books and lots of HPfGU posters read 
> > Sirius very differently than I had always done, namely they see 
> him dark: I saw him misunderstood and good: He's James' best mate, 
> > Harry's godfather, even DD trusts him (or does he?) - flawed, 
> > reckless, but esentially good. 
> > 
> > snip snip>  he's *always* got a 'reasonable' explanation - even 
comes across as  persecuted), he breaks rules, is a loose canon, 
instigates terrible (if you think about it) and risky behaviour by 
the Marauders (how did DD possibly *not* know?) and, one way or 
another, knew enough about the Potter's demise to be on the spot 
straight after it happened (if only that late). Why does JKR say 
that in  early drafts of GH a DE met Sirius there? Sirius is not 
stupid  enough to be duped, so why is he associating with DE's? 
Especially  at GH.
> > 
> Hannah: snip snip  He's an interesting character, rather as Snape 
is, because his motivation isn't always  clear, his past is shady, 
and his actions can be interpreted in  several ways.  
> 
I agree there is more to Sirius than meets the eye.  Something made 
DD mistrust him even before GH, and apparently not even question his 
guilt afterwards.  Something also made Lupin, one of his best 
 friends, believe he was a spy before and after GH.  There's 
 the 'prank' and the issue of why he was never expelled.  There's 
 Snape's apparent conviction that Sirius was guilty of betraying the 
 Potters.
> snip snip snip  Future books  will likely reveal more of his 
unsavoury past exploits.  But as he  himself said; 'The world is not 
divided in good people and Death  Eaters.'


mhbobbin:

Suddenly, the name Stubby Boardman lept into my head.  Yes, it 
seemed like a joke when we all read about him in The Quibbler. The 
idea of Sirius as some sort of Lounge Lizard. (Chapter 10 ootp)

Boardman. Bored Man. I don't mean the whole story as reported in The 
Quibbler is legitimate. But what would have prevented Sirius from 
sneaking out of Grim Old Place to sing with The Hobgoblins. He was, 
after all, a Bored Man.  And this particularly far-fetched article 
is mentioned twice. First, when Kingsley gives the paper to Arthur 
thinking Sirius would find it interesting. Second, when Harry picks 
up Luna's magazine.

What to go on? Not much. The whiff of whiskey a couple of times. 
What has to be long stretches of time alone in Grim Old Place, 
unaccounted for.  And Sirius' reckless personality. Maybe the point 
of the article is only to hint at Sirius' recklessness and not to be 
taken literally.

This article is mentioned in the same chapter as Sirius accompanying 
Harry to the Train, and being seen by Lucius. And Harry speculates 
that this also meant that Lucius knew that The Weasleys, Hermione 
Tonks, Lupin and Mad Eye Moody, as well as Harry, knew where Sirius 
was. Recklessness that costs Sirius dearly as he then must always be 
confined to headquarters.  And that is only an episode Harry saw. 
Did Sirius endanger the Order in other ways? Is this why he HAD to 
be put out of the way, or killed, for awhile. Not to mention all the 
Double-AGent, DE, spy  theories.

(Please forgive me and do not turn me into a newt if this has been 
discussed recently. )
mhbobbin--








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