[HPforGrownups] Re: Timing of the final confrontation

K G moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 5 12:48:59 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 114820




Dzeytoun:
> At this particular juncture, my guess is that DD and the Order those of them in the know, anyway) expect that the final battle is still some years down the road, and that Harry will have plenty of time to finish Hogwarts and complete training (probably Auror training) to meet the prophecy.  I would not be surprised if they actually 
 *discourage* Harry from going all out to prepare himself for battling Voldemort.  I can easily see them *insisting* that Harry do such things as take Hogsmeade trips, play Quidditch, etc, arguing that, pressing as the needs of the WW are, Harry meeting Voldemort too soon would be an absolute disaster.

Geoff:
On the other hand, we need to remember that it will probably be Voldemort's actions which drive the timing of this confrontation. The Wizarding World cannot make assumptions about how prepared he is or when he will move; that is the sort of action which wrong-footed the free world against Hitler in the mid-1930s.

I would imagine that Dumbledore, among others, is perceptive enough to remember that Harry has faced up to Voldemort (including via Quirrell and Tom Riddle) four times in five years. Voldemort wasn't defeated in OOTP, he was forced into the open. He still retains his powers and although he didn't get the prophecy in the end this may, 
in fact, accelerate his wish to finish things off and take the risk of attacking Harry (as he has done previously) without knowing the potential dangers of what it holds.

So anyone who is assuming that Harry has got stacks of time in which to train up may well be living in cloud cuckoo land.



First of all, I want to appologize for not snipping any of the two above posts.  They are both excellent and I agree with them both.

The members of the Order have a conflicted job.  First of all, they love Harry and want him to finally have a happy childhood.  They want him to play and learn and have friends and fall in love and do all of the wonderful things that a teenager is supposed to do.  But on the other hand, there is the real danger that LV poses.  He is moving faster in some ways and slower in others than they are expecting and the Order is being kept a bit off center.  They are doing a great job, but how do you keep up with a psychotic mind?  Harry has to be prepared.  Period.  Even if the "big battle" is a while off, history of the past few years shows that the little battles are strengthening.  I see DD working during the summer to get ready for the next year.  The DA will be out in the open and the origional members will be the ones to help train the rest of the school with Harry over it all.  What an army to back up Harry that will make.  (Just look at what happened on the train when Malfoy and crew
 confronted Harry outside the car with some of the DA memebers).  Also, they are going to need to take care of themselves in the coming months and years also, not just Harry.  It was not just Order members that died last time.  I also see some extra lessons for Harry with some if not all of the following:  Snape, DD, Lupin, Moody, Tonks.  

In other words, lessons will be stepped up and a little bit of seriousness and maturity will over take the school but the fun will be more pronounced and more intense knowing that it may not last.  I also see the twins as having a larger roll in what is to come.  (I love the idea of them supplying the school with weapons by way of the joke shop!!)

moonmyyst


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