Stopping Occlumency

[Bex]

No: HPFGUIDX 114878


Doddiemoe wrote: 
> Snape, like DD is a legilimens.

Yb here:
Actually, he isn't. He's an Occlumens, and a darn good one, 
according to Lupin:
"Harry, I know you don't like Snape, but he is a superb Occlumens..."
OotP, AmVer, p.527

>..I would not be surprised if dd 
> beheaded Kreacher and gave him a plaque on the wall of his 
> ancestors.

Yb:
Seems a little harsh for old Dumbles, doesn't it? But, Kreacher 
wasn't exactly in the best state of mind /before/ DD "persuaded" the 
information out of him. Well, Kreacher wasn't in a healthy sane 
state of mind at the /beginning/ of OotP. If Kreacher doesn't go to 
work for the Malfoys (being the only family he has left to serve), 
I'd imagine he'll stay in Grimmauld Place, happily hanging on the 
wall. I can see Molly, or Tonks, or even Lupin arranging to have 
Kreacher's "dearest wish" carried out. Moody might, as well. I don't 
see sweet old Dumbles doing that to him though, since DD kinda 
blames himself, not Kreacher, for Sirius' death.

> ..after what happened...I would be even less surprised
> if Snape turned up first and told kreacher what to tell DD..
> (remember Harry told snape first during the office scene of 
> oop)...I don't believe dd when he says that old grudges stuff...

Yb:
Nope, nope, nope. Kreacher told Harry that "Master has gone out" 
before Snape knew about Harry's vision/thingy. I'm pretty sure the 
Malfoys were the only accomplices in this matter.

>  I do believe that DD trusts Snape...but I don't believe that is 
> what he should do....thus far in the books...we are coming to the 
> point where dd is right or he's not.

Yb:
Meaning that we're starting to see that DD doesn't know everything? 
I agree completely. And it is very clear in the books that DD trusts 
Snape. I suppose JK is showing us that DD is too wise to judge a 
book by its cover, so to speak. I am also leaning towards not an 
evil!Snape, but a SYOS!Snape (Save Your Own Skin). He is a 
Slytherin, and ol' Phineas told us that that's a trademark Slytherin 
trait. I wouldn't be surprised that if push came to shove, Snape 
would haul buns and leave the good guys in the lurch. So maybe DD's 
trust isn't misplaced, but he's betting a lot of the ranch on a 
Slytherin's sense of altruism/take-one-for-the-team.

Yb