Sirius' death (was: Dept of Mysteries Veil Room)
justcarol67
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Wed Oct 6 03:41:48 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114923
Griffin782002 wrote:
>
> Well she has said that. But what about the "properly dead"? Unless
of course it means being a ghost or a form like L.V. was before the
end of G.o.F.
>
> I made search a few days ago using the word 'veil'. It came up with
various results, some of them with refering to those near-death
expiriences. I didn't look at these articles for more details but some
mentioned "beyond the veil expiriences". I only checked the results of
the search and I am not sure when they were written. This made me
think about what I have heard about these. Some have said that they
"saw" dead relatives, who tell them something like "it's not your time
yet, go back." And, sorry but I still do not understand how a veil
kills <snip>
Carol responds to the last sentence:
I don't think the veil itself kills. It's just a gauzy, filmy covering
for the doorway. Once you step--or fall--inside the arched doorway,
you're in the world of the dead or the spirit world, evidently
something like the Greek Hades (though I really don't want Harry to go
that route). Anyway, the veil itself is not fatal, but evidently
falling into the Underworld is.
As I said in an earlier post, I think the archway in the Chamber of
Death was once (in the time of the Druids) either an execution chamber
or a method of ritual sacrifice--or both--and that the Ministry of
Magic, beginning with the Department of Mysteries, was quite
deliberately built on that site. (No proof; it just makes sense to me,
and Celtic tradition would be more closely related to the British WW
tradition than Greek mythology, though Fluffy/Cerberus, bought by
Hagrid from a "Greek chappie," would have made a fine guard for the
veil. It just occurred to me that "Greek" was changed to
"Irish"--i.e., Celtic--in the film version, and JKR didn't protest. Hmmm.)
Carol
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